Most of the PC board manufacturers run a rules check for your board against their process capability. I have had them catch some things from time to time that the design tool missed. For commercial business, I more rules checking is always better, but for hobby and personal purposes, I think the combination is very adequate. --- Graham
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:26 PM Bob kb8tq <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi > > Going from “pro” layout tools to KiCad, the only big thing that seems to > be missing is a “full feature” DRC (design rules check) process in KiCad. > The tools I worked with in the past had much more fine grained rules > checking > features. > > Probably not a big deal for a basement project. It would have stopped > things > dead if we tried to run it at work. We had at least 4 layers of rules > checking > that ran before the board finally went out for fab ….. > > Bob > > > On May 14, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Mike Ingle <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > I will second Bob's comment on choosing a program with PCB - Schematic > > integration. I can heartily recommend Kicad. I own Altium designer, but > > work remotely for an American firm from Germany. The US office uses > PADs. > > We have finally agreed on projects going forward to both use Kicad. > While > > Altium designer is more mature, and a little smoother to use, all of the > > programs have quirks, and require that you become familiar with them. So > > far I am not seeing any limitations in Kicad that would prevent getting > > good boards made. And, many prototype oriented houses accept Kicad PCB > > files directly (for example EUROCIRCUITS) , which saves you from > generating > > Gerbers and drill files. > > > > And Kicad just keeps getting better. > > > > -- mike > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 4:30 PM Bob kb8tq <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Hi > >> > >> I would toss in: > >> > >> If you are starting from scratch, pick a program that allows you to > easily > >> enter schematics as well as PCB layouts. Take the time to learn both > sides > >> of the program. That will give you an automated check between the > schematic > >> and the layout….. It also gives you a document to go back to / hand to > >> others > >> to show what the board was intended to do. > >> > >> Bob > >> > >>> On May 14, 2020, at 5:51 AM, ew via time-nuts < > [email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Thanks Mark for reminding me, spend 3 hours this morning reviewing > >> designs to be released. Found a couple of problems. Also went back to > look > >> at the OCXO boards I released in 2018, found a problem on the board > with no > >> Amp, the SMA is not grounded. Easy to fix, but if some one wants new > Gerber > >> will publish it.Always try to have a third party check my designs. To > many > >> designs 30 this year. > >>> Bert Kehren > >>> In a message dated 5/13/2020 10:18:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, > >> [email protected] writes: > >>> > >>> One thing that I recommend is that after completing the layout is to:1) > >> step back and wait a few days2) enjoy a few adult beverages while > waiting3) > >> go back a re-check everything4) send it out to the board house > >>> You'd be surprised how often simple, subtle, not so subtle > >> glitches/tweaks/improvements show up after a pause in the process. > >>> --------------- > >>>> Once you get going, a board is a weekend project. Indeed, a simple > >> board might be anevening project. There’s not a lot involved. > >> _______________________________________________time-nuts mailing list -- > >> [email protected] unsubscribe, go to > >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.comand > follow > >> the instructions there. > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] > >>> To unsubscribe, go to > >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > >>> and follow the instructions there. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] > >> To unsubscribe, go to > >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > >> and follow the instructions there. > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] > > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
