Hi

> On Jul 2, 2020, at 6:38 PM, jimlux <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 7/2/20 2:50 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote:
>> Hi
>>> On Jul 2, 2020, at 5:30 PM, jimlux <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 7/2/20 11:37 AM, ed breya wrote:
>>>> It's been fun reminiscing about all these dividers and techniques, but 
>>>> getting back to the OP, the original search was for a divide by 5 with 
>>>> "low power" and operation from 5 to possibly 3.3V, and clocking properly 
>>>> at 50 MHz. One would assume also minimal size and complexity, and low cost.
>>> 
>>> You forgot to add rad-hard.. I was the OP - This has been a fascinating 
>>> thing - we have a breadboard that uses a fancy clock distribution chip that 
>>> consumes close to a watt (and has too much jitter, as well)..
>> 
>>> 3) It's hard to even find programmable logic that is simple and small. All 
>>> the mfrs tout their latest tiny parts with *only half a million gates* (I 
>>> exaggerate, but you get the picture)
>> If they want to sell you a fully self contained "million gate" device for a 
>> couple bucks, is that really
>> a bad thing?  Sure, if it’s in a thousand pin BGA, it’s a bad thing. If it’s 
>> in a < 40 pin package that
>> you can get on a small board …. maybe not so much.
> 
> yes, if it's in a small pinout package. One other peculiarity that I've been 
> burned by is that a lot of the modern devices with large logic and few I/O 
> pins have power dissipations that are clock rate independent for the internal 
> logic - it's the leakage current that dominates and that's VERY dependent on 
> die temp.
> 
> 
> I think though, that the marketplace is driving towards increased 
> functionality on one chip, with bigger die size. Those of us who want 50 
> gates at medium or low speed are distinctly in the minority.

There are very few applications that require that sort of device. Volume
matters ( a lot !!)

Bob


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