On 9/26/20 9:56 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote:
Hi

In addition, the input to the ADC has it’s own noise issues. If you have a 
really
clean clock (or a poor ADC), the noise floor of the input may dominate the 
noise floor.

Bob


Yes - and typically, this spec is not given in a useful fashion for time-nuttery. You have to test it and see what it is.

for instance, the AD9650 has a specified aperture uncertainty specified as jitter of, say, 0.08 picosecond, rms.

And they don't specify what the clock input bandwidth is.




On Sep 26, 2020, at 12:28 PM, jimlux <[email protected]> wrote:

On 9/26/20 8:10 AM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote:
We know that phase noise scales with frequency, so if you multiply frequency by 
10 you get a 20 dB increase in noise.
What I don't fully understand is how that relationship works with other than 
simple multiplication/division.
For example (and my real life concern), if I have an analog to digital 
converter that is clocked at 122.88 MHz and know the phase noise of that clock 
signal, what do I know about the effective phase noise when the ADC is 
receiving a signal at, e.g., 12.288 MHz?

To a first order, the ADC is like an ideal multiplier/mixer - phase noise on 
the clock contributes to phase noise on the sampled data by reciprocal mixing, 
just like a mixer.



In other words, if I were to measure the phase noise at the output of the ADC 
when fed a high-enough quality 12.288 MHz signal, would I see something like 
the 122.88 MHz phase noise, or something better due to the scaling by 10?
Thanks!
John
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