On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 08:00 -0500, Ryan Malayter wrote:
> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Eugene Smiley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You need more commonality between the two servers configs. Currently, your 
> > only
> > commonality is a server that has a high delay (aka network-wise distant from
> > you). At least put time.nist.gov in both configs and note the difference.
> 
> For what it's worth, I would recommend against time.nist.gov unless
> you have some sort of regulatory requirement that it be used. It is
> under very heavy load, as are the other NIST and USNO servers.

I am using (on Blue):

server ntp.ubuntu.com 
server 0.us.pool.ntp.org
server 1.us.pool.ntp.org
server 2.us.pool.ntp.org
server 3.us.pool.ntp.org

Blue got time.nist.gov as part of the draw. When I reboot, it will be a
different group. I did not select it.

ntp.ubuntu.com was the default one that came with the distribution, so I
decided to keep it, even though I think it is in Europe.

> 
> All of those show very jittery time from my network vantage point,
> undoubtedly due to network traffic. I recall a recall reading that
> USNO handles >5 Mb/s of NTP traffic, and that was many years ago. It
> may be much worse than that now. Also the typical "rules of
> engagement" are that you never use a stratum-1 unless you are a
> stratum-2 server that is in turn serving time to many clients.
> 

I have Verizon FiOs 2 MB up and 5 MB down. I do not know if that makes a
difference on the jitter. I would hope it made it better.

> In your situation, if you really have only these two machines, I would
> add use this configuration on blue:
> server 0.pool.ntp.org
> server 1.pool.ntp.org
> server 2.pool.ntp.org
> server 3.pool.ntp.org
> 
> And this configuration on red:
> server blue iburst prefer
> server 0.pool.ntp.org
> server 1.pool.ntp.org
> server 2.pool.ntp.org
> 
> This ensures that red syncs to blue, but uses the NTP pool as a sanity
> check on its time. If blue really goes crazy and is marked as a
> false-ticker, red will choose one of the pool servers as its source.
> 

That is what I want.

What is iburst? It is not listed in the server commands as an option.
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/clockopt.html#server 

Reference Clock Commands

server 127.127.t.u [prefer] [mode int] [minpoll int] [maxpoll int] 
        This command can be used to configure reference clocks in
        special ways. The options are interpreted as follows: 
prefer 
        Marks the reference clock as preferred. All other things being
        equal, this host will be chosen for synchronization among a set
        of correctly operating hosts. See the Mitigation Rules and the
        prefer Keyword page for further information. 
mode int 
        Specifies a mode number which is interpreted in a
        device-specific fashion. For instance, it selects a dialing
        protocol in the ACTS driver and a device subtype in the parse
        drivers. 
minpoll int 
maxpoll int 
        These options specify the minimum and maximum polling interval
        for reference clock messages in seconds, interpreted as dual
        logarithms (2 ^ x). For most directly connected reference
        clocks, both minpoll and maxpoll default to 6 (2^16 = 64 s). For
        modem reference clocks, minpoll defaults to 10 (2^10 = 1024 s =
        17.1 m) and maxpoll defaults to 14 (2^14 = 16384 s = 4.5 h). The
        allowable range is 4 (16 s) to 17 (36.4 h) inclusive. 


Thanks 
Kip
-- 
Kipton Moravec KE5NGX
"Always do right; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest."
--Mark Twain


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