Hi Joe,

I calcualted all overhead according to IEEE 802.15.4 2003 version as follows:

1. Turn around time,
aTurnaroundTime is 16 symbols specified in the standard. Since the symbol rate 
is 62.5 Ksymbols/second, aTurnaroundTime  = 16 * (1/62.5) = 192 us. (where did 
you get 450 us?)


2. IFS (Interframe Spacing)
Since I used packet size > aMaxSIFSFrameSize (=18 byre), IFS = aMinLIFSPeriod = 
40 symbols = 40*(1/62.5) = 640 us. 

3. Average Backoff Time = 1.8 ms, as calculated in the last email. 

4. ACK 
I am not sure of ACK is enabled or not. just suppose it is enabled. Tack = 11 
bytes / 250 K = 352 us

5. packet transmission time = 3.84 ms

Therefore, the total overhead for one packet is: AverageBackoff + 
aTurnaroundTime + Tack + IFS +  aTurnaroundTime = 1.8 + 0.192 + 0.352 + 0.64 + 
0.192 =  3.176 ms (according to Fig. 16 on page 142 in the standard)

The achievable throughput should be: 3.84/(3.84+3.176)*250K = 136.8 Kbps >> 35 
Kbps. 

Am I missing any delay/overhead? Thanks. 

Chonggang

----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Polastre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 2:33 pm
Subject: Re: [Tinyos-help] throughput of tmote sky
To: Chonggang Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Philip Levis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]

> Remember that the radio takes 450us to switch from RX>TX and another
> 450us to switch back from TX>RX.  There are other associated delays.
> 
> -Joe
> 
> On 7/11/07, Chonggang Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks for the posting, Phil. Yes, There is a backoff in CSMA-CA. 
> However the backoff is not that much to make 250 Kbps down to 35 
> Kbps. The reason is below.
> >
> > According the IEEE 802.15.4 standard 2003 version, the average 
> backoff time will be (2^BE * aUnitBackOffPeriod * aUnitSymbolTime) 
> /2 . Also according to the standard, aUnitBackOffPeriod = 20 and 
> aUnitSymbolTime = 1/SymoblRate = 1/ 62.5K = 16 us (for 2.45 GHz 
> PHY). In this experiement, there is no collision, therefore BE = 
> macMinME. macMinME is between 0 and 3. If it is 0, there is no 
> backoff. Let us choose the maximum 3 and BE=3.
> >
> > Therefore, for each packet, the average backoff time is about 
> (8*20*16)/2 = 1.28 ms. In my experiment, the UDP packet length is 
> 110 Bytes and consider 10 bytes or so overhead, it is 120 bytes in 
> total, and the consumed time is 120*8/250K =  3.84 ms.
> >
> > Therefore the achieved throughput should be around 
> (3.84/(3.84+1.28))*250K = 187.5 Kbps. Am my understanding right?
> >
> > 187.5 Kbps is still far larger than 35 Kbps. I still do not know 
> the reason.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Chonggang
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Philip Levis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 1:57 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Tinyos-help] throughput of tmote sky
> > To: Chonggang Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: [email protected]
> >
> > > On Jul 11, 2007, at 10:48 AM, Chonggang Wang wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I am trying to test the pure throughput of 802.15.4 and conduct
> > > an
> > > > experiment as follows:
> > > >
> > > >                            \/                     \/
> > > >                             |                      |
> > > >    -----------       -------              --------
> > > > -----------
> > > >   |   PC1    |      |Mote1|            |Mote2|           |    
> PC2> > |
> > > >   |            |-----|        |             |
> > > > |---------|           |
> > > >    ----------        -------              --------
> > > > ----------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Both motes are placed close (guarantee good channel condition)
> > > and
> > > > configured as Base Station by being installed TOSBase
> > > application.
> > > > There is a sender program at PC1 and a receiver program at PC2.
> > > > Both PC1 and PC2 start SerailForwarder (SF) (I changed the
> > > original
> > > > SF in order to support UDP and avoid the effect of TCP 
> Congestion> >
> > > > Control and ACK). The baud rate for both motes is 115200.
> > > >
> > > > Then the sender program at PC1 continuously send a file (large
> > > > enough) to SF at PC1 through UDP socket. The receiver program at
> > > > PC2 listens to the SF's UDP port at PC2 and calculate the
> > > received
> > > > data rate. I repeated this experiment for lots of times and 
> found> >
> > > > the received data rate at PC2 is only about 35 Kbps. Since tmote
> > > > sky uses chipcon 2420 with 250 Kbps data rate, 35 Kbps is
> > > > surprisingly pretty slow since in this case there should not be
> > > any
> > > > collision. I am not sure if those two motes automatically go to
> > > > sleep state. Also i did not find any bad packet due to CRC
> > > failure
> > > > in SerialForwarder.
> > > >
> > > > Could any one give me a clue?
> > >
> > > MAC backoff.
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
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