On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:35 PM, 최익성 <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Eric Decker.
>
> Thank you very much for your kind explanation.
>
> I know that the collision detection is not required in CSMA/CA.
>
> Is there any way to detect the collision at transmitter?
>

Not that I am aware of.   The issue is whether the h/w can can hear itself
when transmitting.  I don't think the cc2420 has the capabililtiy and with
out hearself then doing collision detection becomes problematic.


> In case of slotted aloha in ISO 18000-7, do we need detect the collision
> only at receiver?
>

No idea.   I'm not familar with slotted aloha.

A collision seen at a receiver can show up in various ways.   I don't know
if that means that the receiver can reliably determine that a collision has
taken place.

Regardless,  I don't see how the receiver detecting a collision can in any
reasonable fashion impact the operation of the transmitter.   The
transmitter needs to detect the collision.


If you must do a protocol that requires reliable collision detection, you
must select your radio h/w such that CD is supported.

>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Sincerely Yours,
>
> Ick-Sung Choi.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* "Eric Decker"<[email protected]>
> *To:* "최익성"<[email protected]>;
> *Cc:* <[email protected]>;
> *Sent:* 2012-07-25 (수) 13:25:52
> *Subject:* Re: [Tinyos-help] Collision detection at transmitter.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:56 PM, 최익성 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Dear tinyos developers.
>
> I have a basic question about collision detection at transmitter.
>
>
> Its CSMA/CA not CSMA/CD so it is collision avoidance.
>
>
>  In CSMA/CA, transmitter transmits the frame. If there is a collision,
> the transmitter tries to transmit the frame after random backoff time.
>
> How can the transmitter detects the collision?
>
> Typically this kind of thing is implemented in h/w.   You don't specify
> what h/w you are using...   (Yes, it would have been helpful if you told us
> the specifics of what h/w you are using).   So I'm assuming the telosb with
> the cc2420 radio.
>
> the cc2420 hardware does Clear Channel Assessment and provides status bits
> that tell the driver what is happening.  I believe if the channel is busy
> it is up to the driver to handle the back off.
>
> I would suggest you take a look at the cc2420 manual (pg 50) and look at
> the cc2420 driver where it deals with CCA and possibly the STXONCCA command
> strobe.
>
>
>  Thank you very much.
>
> Sincerely Yours,
>
> Ick-Sung Choi.
>
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