Dear Eric Decker.
Thank you very much for your kind advice and explanation.
Sincerely Yours,
Ick-Sung Choi.


-----Original Message-----
From: "Eric Decker"<[email protected]> 
To: "최익성"<[email protected]>; 
Cc: <[email protected]>; 
Sent: 2012-07-25 (수) 15:08:23
Subject: Re: [Tinyos-help] Collision detection at transmitter.





On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:35 PM, 최익성 <[email protected]> wrote:



Dear Eric Decker.


Thank you very much for your kind explanation.


I know that the collision detection is not required in CSMA/CA.


Is there any way to detect the collision at transmitter?




Not that I am aware of.   The issue is whether the h/w can can hear itself when 
transmitting.  I don't think the cc2420 has the capabililtiy and with out 
hearself then doing collision detection becomes problematic.
 




In case of slotted aloha in ISO 18000-7, do we need detect the collision only 
at receiver?




No idea.   I'm not familar with slotted aloha.


A collision seen at a receiver can show up in various ways.   I don't know if 
that means that the receiver can reliably determine that a collision has taken 
place.


Regardless,  I don't see how the receiver detecting a collision can in any 
reasonable fashion impact the operation of the transmitter.   The transmitter 
needs to detect the collision.




If you must do a protocol that requires reliable collision detection, you must 
select your radio h/w such that CD is supported.





Thank you very much.


Sincerely Yours,


Ick-Sung Choi.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: "Eric Decker"<[email protected]> 
To: "최익성"<[email protected]>; 
Cc: <[email protected]>; 
Sent: 2012-07-25 (수) 13:25:52
Subject: Re: [Tinyos-help] Collision detection at transmitter.





On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:56 PM, 최익성 <[email protected]> wrote:




Dear tinyos developers.

I have a basic question about collision detection at transmitter.



Its CSMA/CA not CSMA/CD so it is collision avoidance.
 



In CSMA/CA, transmitter transmits the frame. If there is a collision, the 
transmitter tries to transmit the frame after random backoff time.

How can the transmitter detects the collision?

Typically this kind of thing is implemented in h/w.   You don't specify what 
h/w you are using...   (Yes, it would have been helpful if you told us the 
specifics of what h/w you are using).   So I'm assuming the telosb with the 
cc2420 radio.


the cc2420 hardware does Clear Channel Assessment and provides status bits that 
tell the driver what is happening.  I believe if the channel is busy it is up 
to the driver to handle the back off.


I would suggest you take a look at the cc2420 manual (pg 50) and look at the 
cc2420 driver where it deals with CCA and possibly the STXONCCA command strobe.
 



Thank you very much.

Sincerely Yours,

Ick-Sung Choi.





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