There was a long panel on this at the TTX.

The general consensus is that TinyOS is an execution model and
framework while Zigbee is a protocol.  Therefore, the two are
orthogonal and potentially complementary.  There is no reason you
couldn't have a Zigbee implementation within TinyOS (in fact, one
company has done just that).

-Joe


On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:03:09 -0500, Jeff Thorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Neil, 
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> If or when Zigbee truly becomes globally accepted, will there still much of
> a role for TinyOS? 
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> From: Neilh10 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>  Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:28 PM
>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Subject: RE: [Tinyos-users] TTX Publications 
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> If by SNMS you mean the "Nucleus Network Management system" - the proposal
> seems to be to  help in stabilizing networks - visibility and testability in
> developer applications.  
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> Zigbee was stated as being something that could co-exist with TinyOS. 
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> I went to a ChipCon presentation two weeks ago were Zigbee Consortium had a
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> Also ChipCon has purchased Figure8 - a one-stop Zigbee provider.  They have
> an application interface where they simplify the problems the software
> developers has to what they want to turn on/off. 
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> Zigbee Consortium is proposing a number of application profiles - e.g.
> turning on a light bulb - Manufacturer X switch can talk to Manufacturer Y's
> light bulb. 
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> Zigbee Consortium are also proposing separate test houses (aka WiFi) to test
> inter operability, but also are going for open houses 'jam' sessions to
> determine what level of testing is needed for what level of
> inter-operability. 
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> The conclusion I got was that Zigbee consortium is likely to over-hype the
> possibilities  - they are coming up with something behind closed doors, that
> is addressing some of the market gaps not covered by BlueTooth. 
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> The major value the Zigbee Consortium aims to bring, that perhaps nobody
> else can bring is consumer brand management to low cost, short distance, low
> power wireless. Not a cheap or easily defined project. 
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> To get Zigbee certification, you have to pay for an annual membership fee,
> pay for the testing, and pay a per product marketing fee. Not cheap. 
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> TinyOS as an open standard across multiple platforms - if it can stabilize
> and become ordinary  consumer friendly then it might start to work in
> Zigbee's space - but that seems unlikely. TinyOS umbrella may be were the
> technical problems are solved, and talked about as an engine for wireless
> reliability and interoperability .  
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> Zigbee label may be that which the consumers recognize and understand - like
> they are starting to do with WiFi, BlueTooth etc. 
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> If you want the public presentations of Zigbee and Figure8 I can forward
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>    Neil 
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>  From: Jeff Thorn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:18 PM
>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Subject: [Tinyos-users] TTX Publications 
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> Does anyone know if there will be any publications / documentation on what
> was discussed at the recent TinyOS Technology Exchange? I am particularly
> interested in the panel on the role of Zigbee. I would also like to learn
> more about SNMS. 
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>  Thanks! 
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>  Jeff 
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