Yes Zigbee Alliance has a commercial piece that is orthogonal to TinyOs - consumer brand management - ie the management of all the technology the consumer expects to be there to make it work out the box.
Another group working on a more technical level but still with the same view as Zigbee of needing inter-operability is the IEEE Wireless Smart Sensors group - 1451.5 So this is an idea for the W2G - and it could be pretty simple idea. How does the higher application (not the human user) read the meta data on the sensors - or more plainly - what about a descriptor language for the sensors - a Transducer Electronic Data Sheet is what the IEEE P1451 call it. So I want a temperature reading - how about being able to read the sensors specifications. Do I have to look at the circuit diagram or manufacturers data printed data sheets to figure out this device is 10% accurate, and needs calibrating every two months, and the device is two floors up so I can't see if it has a calibration sticker on it. Just an idea - http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/1451/5/ Neil -----Original Message----- From: Joe Polastre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Neilh10 Subject: Re: [Tinyos-users] TTX Publications There was a long panel on this at the TTX. The general consensus is that TinyOS is an execution model and framework while Zigbee is a protocol. Therefore, the two are orthogonal and potentially complementary. There is no reason you couldn't have a Zigbee implementation within TinyOS (in fact, one company has done just that). -Joe On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:03:09 -0500, Jeff Thorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Neil, > > Thanks for the great info! > > > > If or when Zigbee truly becomes globally accepted, will there still much of > a role for TinyOS? > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Neilh10 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:28 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Tinyos-users] TTX Publications > > > > > > If by SNMS you mean the "Nucleus Network Management system" - the proposal > seems to be to help in stabilizing networks - visibility and testability in > developer applications. > > > > > > Zigbee was stated as being something that could co-exist with TinyOS. > > > > > > I went to a ChipCon presentation two weeks ago were Zigbee Consortium had a > slot. > > > Also ChipCon has purchased Figure8 - a one-stop Zigbee provider. They have > an application interface where they simplify the problems the software > developers has to what they want to turn on/off. > > > Zigbee Consortium is proposing a number of application profiles - e.g. > turning on a light bulb - Manufacturer X switch can talk to Manufacturer Y's > light bulb. > > > Zigbee Consortium are also proposing separate test houses (aka WiFi) to test > inter operability, but also are going for open houses 'jam' sessions to > determine what level of testing is needed for what level of > inter-operability. > > > > > > The conclusion I got was that Zigbee consortium is likely to over-hype the > possibilities - they are coming up with something behind closed doors, that > is addressing some of the market gaps not covered by BlueTooth. > > > > > > The major value the Zigbee Consortium aims to bring, that perhaps nobody > else can bring is consumer brand management to low cost, short distance, low > power wireless. Not a cheap or easily defined project. > > > To get Zigbee certification, you have to pay for an annual membership fee, > pay for the testing, and pay a per product marketing fee. Not cheap. > > > > > > TinyOS as an open standard across multiple platforms - if it can stabilize > and become ordinary consumer friendly then it might start to work in > Zigbee's space - but that seems unlikely. TinyOS umbrella may be were the > technical problems are solved, and talked about as an engine for wireless > reliability and interoperability . > > > > > > Zigbee label may be that which the consumers recognize and understand - like > they are starting to do with WiFi, BlueTooth etc. > > > > > > If you want the public presentations of Zigbee and Figure8 I can forward > them on. > > > > > > > > > Neil > > > > > > ----- > From: Jeff Thorn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Tinyos-users] TTX Publications > > > Does anyone know if there will be any publications / documentation on what > was discussed at the recent TinyOS Technology Exchange? I am particularly > interested in the panel on the role of Zigbee. I would also like to learn > more about SNMS. > > > Thanks! > > Jeff > > > _______________________________________________ > Tinyos-users mailing list > Tinyos-users@Millennium.Berkeley.EDU > http://mail.Millennium.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/tinyos-users > > > _______________________________________________ Tinyos-users mailing list Tinyos-users@Millennium.Berkeley.EDU http://mail.Millennium.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/tinyos-users _______________________________________________ Tinyos-users mailing list Tinyos-users@Millennium.Berkeley.EDU http://mail.Millennium.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/tinyos-users
