Rick wrote: I guess that I am an old geezer. I teach real college courses for real college students. If they can think, assimilate information, engage in critical thinking, fine. I refuse to bring down traditional higher ed. to accommodate unqualified, or lazy students.
Call me crazy but think back to when you were an undergraduate if you are 50 or older. Reading the original sources, not summary watered down texts, comprehensive midterms and finals (never had a MC test as an undergraduate), 20-30 page term paper required in each course. Remember? That was an education. No doubt you are an old geezer and I suspect I am even older and geezier. But,but, but, I disagree with you. I went to a fairly decent undergraduate college (University of Delaware). I had multiple choice exams in intro classes. We read Scientific American Reprints (remember those, geezers?) not original articles. My papers were 5-10 pages long and I read and studied a long procession of exceedingly boring texts that were also watered down. I still have copies of my intro text in 1961 - Bugelski was the author and you would never have known that humans had anything to do with psychology. I have exams from those glorious days of yesteryear as well - I got a MC question about negative reinforcement wrong and mixed up CS and CR! In one of my senior classes we dealt largely with the primary literature, but that was a senior seminar in learning theory. I started my graduate teaching in 1967 with Buss and then Coleman for Abnormal. Thank heavens for me these were pretty watered down because I didn't know diddly squat about abnormal. I suspect we remember those likeminded students who, like us, spontaneously read original research articles and debated them, but we forget the others who didn't becuase they didn't have to. I know of only three graduates in psychology at the U of D in my year who went became faculty. I have been on the full time faculty at a Medical School, two free standing professional schools, two prestigious four year colleges, s University, as well as several part time positions over the last 34 years of teaching. In my geezerdom I have come to believe that we are admitting students who wouldn't have gone to college 30 years ago, that they are less well prepared, but basically no more nor less motivated or willing to work than before. The good old days weren't good, they are just old. Harry Avis PhD Sierra College Rocklin, CA 95677 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life is opinion - Marcus Aurelius There is nothing that is good or bad, but that thinking makes it so - Shakespeare _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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