At 12:47 AM -0600 3/20/02, Mike Lee wrote:At 11:02 AM 3/20/02 -0600, Paul Smith wrote:
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> Of course, creationism is different from intelligent design creationism,
How?
They both assume the existence and action of a supernatural cause, and
oppose the sufficiency of a natural explanation for life as it is.
* I'd still like to see some support for that claim. Who are these
"scientists"? What determines who gets that label? Obviously a religious
university could grant credits and degrees in "biology" for studying
teaching creationism and label the graduates "scientists" and then claim
that constituted "increasing numbers of scientists accepting creationism".
But if that's all that's going on, it's totally irrelevant to the scientific
study of the origins of species.
Hopefully, the following two snippets will serve as partial answers to Paul and Paul. The
links to the full articles follow.
I should say that I have no vested interest in Intelligent Design theory, and that perhaps my original intent in separating the meanings of Creationism and Intelligent Design Creationism reflects an agnostic philosophical appreciation for the whole debate.
"As opposed to the creation/evolution debate where critics of evolution often have little or no
formal training in the field of biology, the advocates of intelligent design are for the most active
and well-established professionals in their field. The challenges that they raise are based on
careful observation and must be taken seriously by the scientific community. To fail to do so
would put scientists in the uncomfortable position of being accused of being closed minded and
dogmatic, rather than open to inquiry."
http://www.uu.edu/centers/science/spring00/wofford.htm
"So the question facing biologists is clear: Do irreducibly complex systems represent an unbridgeable evolutionary chasm? If so, Darwinism is in a bad way and Behe has made an astonishing discovery. If not, Behe's case collapses and he has succeeded only in misleading large numbers of people. Behe, never shy, has already cast his vote: the discovery of design, he assures us, is 'so
significant that it must be ranked as one of the greatest achievements in the history of science,'
rivaling 'those of Newton and Einstein, Lavoisier and Schrodinger, Pasteur, and Darwin."
http://bostonreview.mit.edu/br21.6/orr.html
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