On 18 Nov 2002, Esther Yoder Strahan wrote: > Dear TIPSters, > > Some years ago, when in grad school, I ran across a wonderful excerpt, > <snip>
> The source in question was either a letter or a diary entry written by > a professor in the late-17th century, I think, and it seems to me it > was written about Harvard undergraduates. Maybe it was just a bit > later and written about Yalies--not sure. > > Anyway, the gist of it was that this prof was complaining that the > students: > 1) weren't interested in learning > 2) were rude and ill-mannered > 3) spent all their time drinking and carousing with fellow students > 4) disrupted class > 5) didn't study, etc. Well, this isn't quite that, but it does sound suspiciously like the old complaint attributed to Socrates, and now suspected to be a fake. Perhaps that old reconstructive memory thing turned it from ancient Greece to Harvard? It says: > The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, > contempt for authority; they allow disrespect for elders and > love chatter in place of exercise. Children now are tyrants, > not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when > eleders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before > company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and > tyrannize their teachers. Anyway, discussion of it can be found at: http://www.qis.net/~jschmitz/afu/youth.htm Stephen ______________________________________________________________ Stephen L. Black, Ph.D. tel: (819) 822-9600 ext 2470 Department of Psychology fax: (819) 822-9661 Bishop's University e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lennoxville, QC J1M 1Z7 Canada Dept web page at http://www.ubishops.ca/ccc/div/soc/psy TIPS discussion list for psychology teachers at http://www.frostburg.edu/dept/psyc/southerly/tips _________________________________________________________ --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
