Rod- I agree with your assessment that finding a political or voting position right now is difficult (impossible). I'm reminded of, I think it was Staddon's, position at one time that this is a bit like having one's feet, "firmly planted in mid air." :) I also see the humor (or humour) of Clinton's sudden interest on semantics during his testimony. I actually think this is a good in-class demonstration of the difficulty of looking at one's own position. It is certainly true that Clinton had questionable morals and scrupples but if one views Bush as better I just don't get it. (BTW- I didn't mean any offense either by my earlier post but just that there can be times when such semantic care is appropriate. Sorry if it came across as otherwise). And I totally agree with (and laughed quite a bit) at your points re Southern "grammar". You did miss a few and I might could point one or to out. Tee hee. Nothing will bring a run away ego back to earth than to actually hear yourself say "might could" while trying to appear eloquent or pithy! Tim Shearon -----Original Message----- From: Hetzel, Rod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sun 2/9/2003 2:09 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Cc: Subject: RE: Nu-cu-ler Hey Tim. No insult or ill-will intended. Just made the post for the sake of humor--which, granted, may not have been much! :) I actually voted for Clinton twice, but was disheartened by the democratic party's response to the whole impeachment thing. That puts me in the category of being either a conservative Democrat or a liberal Republican, or maybe I'm just an extreme moderate! At any rate, it leaves me without a comfortable political home for the time being...The posts about Bush's pronunciation has actually spurred some interesting conversations with my wife (who is a counseling psychologist with a background in intellectual and psychoeducational assessment) about different types of learning disabilities. But since my wife and her entire family are from Texas, they don't see anything odd about his pronunciation of the word. In fact, they're just curious why he has never used words like wampyjawed, fixin', and what-not. (As in: "I tell you what, that ol' sapsucker Sadam has me so wampyjawed and whatnot, I'm fixin' to head on over there and open up a can of rattlesnakes on him!) Of course, in the midst of our nu-cu-ler discussions you all have completely missed the *real* question... "Would you write a letter of recommendation for George W. Bush to teach a Communications course?" (Or maybe the question should be, "Would you write a letter of recommendation for Bill Clinton to teach a Marriage and Family course?") Disgruntledly yours, Rod ______________________________________________ Roderick D. Hetzel, Ph.D. Department of Psychology LeTourneau University Post Office Box 7001 2100 South Mobberly Avenue Longview, Texas 75607-7001 Office: Education Center 218 Phone: 903-233-3893 Fax: 903-233-3851 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Homepage: http://www.letu.edu/people/rodhetzel <http://www.letu.edu/people/rodhetzel> -----Original Message----- From: Shearon, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 2:20 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: RE: Nu-cu-ler Hi. I suppose Rod's point (political and defensiveness on Clinton's part) is well taken. On the other hand, I think it may be somewhat dismissive of linguistics and other legitimate areas of investiagtion (unintentional and in the interest only of humor- no ill intent assumed). Just something to think about- Tim _________________________________________ Timothy O. Shearon, PhD Professor and Chair Department of Psychology Albertson College of Idaho Caldwell, Idaho 83605 Teaching: Neuropsychology, Physiological psychology, History and Systems, Intro -----Original Message----- From: Hetzel, Rod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sat 2/8/2003 2:47 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Cc: Subject: RE: Nu-cu-ler I guess we just have a president for whom pronunciation is not very important. This directly contrasts with our previous president who was meticulous not about the pronunciation of words, but by the meaning of words. After all, who else other than Mr. Hillary Clinton would have argued about what the meaning of the word "is" is... -----Original Message----- From: Paul Brandon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sat 2/8/2003 1:57 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Cc: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: Re: Nu-cu-ler At 11:02 AM -0500 2/8/03, Beth Benoit wrote: >I know this may be a stretch to relate to psychology, but I'll try... > >Our President drives me absolutely crazy with his continual, embarrassing >mispronunciation of "nuclear." There has been much mentioning of it in the >press, so it seems hardly likely that he's not aware of it. I believe that it started with Eisenhower. > >My husband insists it's a speech defect, which sounds unlikely to me. Who >can pronounce "clean," Listen carefully -- in most cases you'll hear "cuh lee an". >but can't pronounce "nuclear"? I'm more concerned with the accuracy of his purported facts than the accuracy of his pronunciation. -- * PAUL K. BRANDON [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Psychology Dept Minnesota State University, Mankato * * 23 Armstrong Hall, Mankato, MN 56001 ph 507-389-6217 * * http://www.mankato.msus.edu/dept/psych/welcome.html * --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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