In reference to Don McBurney's suggestion (which I suspect was made 
more facetiously than seriously) that a parent bite a biting child 
back, Beth Benoit replied:

> Isn't one of the basic tenets of a young child's egocentric cognition
> that he/she can't put herself in another's shoes?  That's one (of the
> many) reasons why "showing a child how it feels" to be bitten won't be
> effective.  She won't take the next step and think, "I won't bite that
> child because I know how it feels."  

This may be peripheral to the main event here, but the current view 
is that Piaget badly overestimated egocentrism in the young child. 
Neo-Piagetian research has established that even pre-schoolers are 
able to appreciate the point of view and emotional experience of 
others, and can empathize (or not) with their the pain and suffering. 
Try banging your finger with a hammer (no, don't!) when a preschooler 
is around, and see how they react to your pain. So I think it's an 
unwarranted assumption that the biter doesn't know how the bitee 
feels after an attack. In fact, as some have pointed out, that may be 
what keeps the game going. 

The main problem with the suggestion is that biting is a nasty and 
especially painful health hazard, whether administered by child or by 
parent.  Its use as a punishment seems to be based on the premise 
that an aversive which imitates the crime has some particular 
effectiveness.  I doubt this.  As I understand it, a punishment can 
be any arbitrary event, provided it can be administered easily, 
consistently, rapidly, with minimal side-effects, at the least degree 
of intensity which will be effective, and which is not illegal. 
Biting back flunks most of these requirements. 

I also want to say that while I've enjoyed the discussion, I've noted 
an unfortunate air of moral superiority among some of the responses  
of those opposed to the use of punishment. This makes me 
uncomfortable. So let me say a few words about ethics.

Punishment of little kids is bad. Giving them lots of love is good. 
Finding out what troubles them is good. But often neither of those 
suggestions works. What do you do then? According to Spiegler & 
Guevremont (1998), we have to consider the _principle of utility_, 
which "holds that an action is morally right if, when compared with 
alternative actions, it produces more benefit than harm". So consider 
if the following applies to our case:

-the problem child bites often and causes great distress to her 
victims
-the biting carries a serious risk of infection
-other parents threaten the day care with the legal responsibility to 
take action to stop the biting
-the biter's parents refuse to allow their child to be removed from 
the day care
-gentler techniques such as time-out don't work (unrealistic, because 
in the case we're considering, I'd expect that time-out would work if 
given a chance and used appropriately)

What do you do then? Given that the parents, the day care staff, and 
all regulatory agencies give full informed consent, I'd invoke the 
principle of utility, and say the harm of a few squirts in the face 
with the equivalent of a water pistol, when compared with alternative 
actions (e.g. doing nothing, removing the child from school), 
produces more benefit than harm. Ethically appropriate, I'd say.

Spiegler & Guevremont (1998) cite an interesting story from 
Goldiamond to make this point. As they note, the case is deficient in 
the staff not seeking prior approval which, in those days, wasn't 
required. But aside from that deficiency, it makes a powerful point.  
According to Goldiamond:

"A colleague...showed us a deeply moving film. The heroine was a 
institutionalized primary-grade girl. [Because she head-banged] "a 
padded football helmet was put on her head. Because she could take it 
off, her hands were tied down in her crib. She kept tossing her head 
and tore out her hair... She accordingly had a perpetually bruised 
face on a hairless head, with a neck almost as thick as that of a 
horse".

[In desperation, she was slapped on the cheek for self-injury]. "My 
colleague reports that less than dozen slaps were ever 
delivered...Its use was shortly down to once a week and was 
discontinued in a few weeks. In the meantime, the football helmet was 
removed and the girl began to eat at the table. She slept in a 
regular bed. Her hair grew out, and she turned out to be a very 
pretty little blonde girl with delicate features and a delicate neck. 
In less than a year, she started to move towards joining a group of 
older girls...She smiled often."

[The parents found she had been slapped]. "They immediately withdrew 
her from the custody of my colleague's staff. The last part of the 
film shows her back at the institution. She is strapped down in her 
crib. Her hands are tied to a side. She is wearing a football helmet. 
Her hair is torn out, her face is a mass of bruises and her neck is 
almost as thick as that of a horse."

Stephen

Spiegler, M., & Guevremont, D. (1998). Contemporary behavior therapy, 
3rd ed. Brooks/Cole.

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