> > Jim Guinee said:
> > I've read that this exacerbated the problem, as opposed to causing it
> >
> > Further, this if true is my point about bad religion.  I am unaware of 
> > any
> > scriptural tenet or early church tradition that would justify such 
> > foolishness.
> >
> > But it seems to have run rampant during this period.

> Bob Wildblood said:
> But isn't that the point.  All revealed religions have (at their heart) 
> the same basic tenets; love god above all others, love thy  neighbor as 
> thyself, do unto others ... yadda, yadda, yadda.

Sort of

> But look at all of 
> the perversions of these basic tenets (now sticking out my neck a wee 
> bit) in attempts to gain power, not converts, and the results were all 
> of the "bad religion" practices that have been common and can be 
> verified as far back as we have written history.

Absolutely

Some would say God ought to micro-manage His religion more

Others might say he allows us to get exactly the kind of religious 
manifestations we deserve


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