While we are on this discussion of teaching technology, I would like to ask
a question.  Do other people have difficulty writing on overhead projector
slides?  Looking into that bright light while writing makes me feel like I'm
going blind.  When I look up I can't see for a few minutes.  Should I wear
sunglasses?

Melady Preece
A powerpoint devotee...


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> 1. Re: I Hate Dry Erase Markers
> 2. RE: RE: I kind of like Dry Erase Markers
> 3. The old PowerPoint/chalkboard dichotomy
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> Subject: Re: I Hate Dry Erase Markers
> From: Doug Wallen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:57:44 -0500
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> But remember to always call it please, RESEARCH!
> -- 
> Doug Wallen, Psychology Dept.             (507) 389-5818
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> > From: Paul Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences"
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> > Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:06:58 -0500
> > To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: I Hate Dry Erase Markers
> >
> >> Stuart Vyse wrote
> >> "Call me old fashioned........... But when it comes to drawing the
> >> normal curve, I love the feel of chalk on a hard blackboard.
> >> .............. I sometimes think I went to school for the privilege
> >> of walking around with chalk dust on my pants. Chalk is symbolic of
> >> our profession."
> >>
> >> I'm with you, Stuart. Who remembers that old Tom Lehrer ditty about
> >> the the great mathematician, Lobechevsky (sp?). According to the
> >> lyrics, he was ".... the greatest to ever get chalk on his coat!"
> >> Ed
> >
> > "Plagiarize!
> > Do not let a word evade your eyes!
> > Plagiarize,
> > Plagiarize,
> > Plagiarize!"
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> Subject: RE: RE: I kind of like Dry Erase Markers
> From: Vivian Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:24:21 -0700
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> Another option is to use an overhead projector with colored pens -- 
that=20
> way you can be interactive and connected to your students, without the=20
> smell of the dry-erase or the mess of chalk.  :-)
>
> Vivian
> At 12:08 PM 10/12/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >Since I teach anatomy-based courses, I like using dry-erase markers
(the=20
> >low-odor kind) because I can easily use several different colors. I do
NOT=
> =20
> >like power point because I believe it distances me from my students.
They=
> =20
> >are going to draw every diagram they see, so it helps them to draw
right=20
> >along with me. I like the fact that markers show up well and make
using=20
> >color that much easier. Yes, I miss chalk--to a certain extent--but I
used=
> =20
> >to end every day covered in it and that doesn't happen with markers.
And=20
> >like leaf smoke (the bane of many of us in the Midwest) some people
are=20
> >quite sensitive to chalk dust.
> >Carol
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From:   Kenneth M. Steele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent:   Sun 10/12/2003 11:39 AM
> >To:     Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
> >Cc:
> >Subject:        Re: RE: I Hate Dry Erase Markers
> >
> >I agree with Mike. Powerpoint is fine for a formal convention
> >presentation but a chalkboard provides a more flexible and
> >interactive medium. Typically I use a combination of the
> >chalkboard and screen projection of complex/standard materials
> >from a class web page.
> >
> >Ken
> >
> >On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:53:49 -0500 Mike Scoles
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Re: I Hate Dry Erase MarkersChalk is more interactive than Powerpoint.
=
>  You
> > > can ask students to generate ideas and record them on the board.  You=
>  also
> > > get a sense that you are writing with the students, rather than
waiting
> > > through that awkward pause when students are copying a slide.  (No,
> > > animation doesn't solve the problem, and I don't like the passive
nature=
>  of
> > > handing out notes or putting them on a web site.)
> > >
> > > Dry erase markers?  They're just gross.  Chalkdust is better than an=
>  oily
> > > stain.
> > >
> > > *************************************************
> > > Michael T. Scoles, Ph.D.
> > > Director, Arkansas Charter School Resource Center
> > > Associate Professor of Psychology & Counseling
> > > University of Central Arkansas
> > > (501) 450-5418
> > > *************************************************
> > >
> > >
> > >   -----Original Message-----
> > >   From: Stuart Vyse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 8:00 AM
> > >   To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
> > >   Subject: Re: I Hate Dry Erase Markers
> > >
> > >
> > >   Call me old fashioned. I am not, really. I use Powerpoint, and I
use=
>  our
> > > fancy new video document projector=97a replacement for overhead and=
>  opaque
> > > projectors. But when it comes to drawing the normal curve, I love the=
>  feel
> > > of chalk on a hard blackboard. I teach in a building that was built
in=
>  the
> > > 1930=92s, and it still has several heavy black slate boards, not
green=
>  or
> > > brown painted composition boards. When the chalk hits the board,
there=
>  is a
> > > high clicking sound, not a dull thud. The simplicity of chalkboards
is=
>  part
> > > of their beauty. It is like writing with your finger in the sand.=20
> > Scratching
> > > on the cave wall. It connects us with history. Call me a romantic,
but=
> =20
> > that=92
> > > s how I feel.
> > >
> > >   I sometimes think I went to school for the privilege of walking
around
> > > with chalk dust on my pants. Chalk is symbolic of our profession.
> > > Chalkboards are for the classroom. White boards are for the corporate=
>  board
> > > room.
> > >
> > >   --Stuart
> > >   --
> > >   Stuart Vyse              |Box 5621             |Phone: 860-439-2339
> > >   Professor and Chair      |Connecticut College  |Fax:   860-430-5300
> > >   Department of Psychology |New London, CT 06320 |Email:=
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> >Dept. of Psychology
> >Appalachian State University
> >Boone, NC 28608
> >USA
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> Vivian M. Hamilton
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> Subject: The old PowerPoint/chalkboard dichotomy
> From: "Rick Froman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:48:40 -0500
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> The old PowerPoint/chalkboard dichotomy (you can't be interactive with =
> your students with PowerPoint) was broken for me recently when I was in =
> my Stats class and had forgotten to bring my dry erase marker. After =
> stumbling around and rifling through the drawers desperately looking for =
> something with which to write on the board, I remembered something one =
> of my colleagues does regularly. It was way too simplistic to ever get a =
> write-up in ToP and yet it seemed to break some powerful taboo. I just =
> opened a simple word processing program and typed the things I wanted to =
> put on the board. Ta-da!
>
> Not only does this give students the impression that you actually care =
> what they are saying, you don't have to break the impression by =
> callously erasing their pearls of wisdom at the end of the period. You =
> can save the comments to a file and refer to them even in a later class. =
> It is true that it is hard to draw things like the normal curve but, =
> despite the artistic flair I feel upon completing a bell-shaped curve on =
> the board, it is almost never accurate enough to make the fine points I =
> want to make ("yes, the curve is symmetrical, unlike the one you see =
> here, yes the inflection points are one SD from the mean on either side, =
> unlike what you see here, yes the curve never actually touches the =
> X-axis, unlike the one you see here"). I usually use a prepared digital =
> image of a normal curve to refer to during the lecture.
>
> Rick
>
> Dr. Rick Froman
> Associate Professor of Psychology
> John Brown University
> 2000 W. University
> Siloam Springs, AR  72761
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