Beth Benoit wrote:

> I'm a little troubled by what transpired here.  While all of the 
> responses to Robin's posts were interesting, I had the feeling that 
> Christopher was out of line forwarding Robin's post, unless he had 
> Robin's permission. 

Robin made the assignment public. I didn't forward it to anyone who 
couldn't easily have subscribed to this list at any time (indeed, some 
of them are subscribed to this list).

> I think that if I assigned something that was intended to be fun, 
> interesting, and teach about conditioning, I might hesitate to have it 
> dissected by other lists to whom I didn't post it myself.  Sure, maybe 
> Robin's wording might have actually been a bit "gratuitous, unfounded, 
> unfair, and certainly bound to bias students" as one of the more 
> assertive replies remarked, but I kind of felt the same way about 
> Christopher's posting it to those lists.  

Perhaps you could expand on what you found "unfair," etc. If one makes 
public statements -- especially public allegations -- then one should be 
prepared to take public response. That's how the "free exchange of 
ideas" works. Am I to understand that you would prefer it if common 
historical (or other scholarly) misperceptions went unchallenged?

> What was your motivation for forwarding it to those other lists, 
> Christopher?  

Actually, it was only to let them know about the assignment, which I 
thought was pedagogically innovative. There's a lot of discussion in 
history of psychology circles about ways of making the topic more 
interesting to students. Not being a Watson expert myself, I was 
relatively surprised at the character and unanimity of the response. But 
I'm also glad to have found out about it. Aren't you?

> Or should we have a policy on TIPS that we "keep it in the shop" 
> without the permission of the originator of the post?

Is this a scholarly forum for the exchange of information and ideas, or 
a secret society? In any case, presumably historians of psychology, most 
of whom teach in psychology departments just like the people on this 
list, *are* in the same "shop" as us.

Regards,
-- 
Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
M3J 1P3

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Beth Benoit wrote:
Keeping it in the shop (Was Behaviorism/history assignment) I'm a little troubled by what transpired here.  While all of the responses to Robin's posts were interesting, I had the feeling that Christopher was out of line forwarding Robin's post, unless he had Robin's permission.
Robin made the assignment public. I didn't forward it to anyone who couldn't easily have subscribed to this list at any time (indeed, some of them are subscribed to this list).
I think that if I assigned something that was intended to be fun, interesting, and teach about conditioning, I might hesitate to have it dissected by other lists to whom I didn't post it myself.  Sure, maybe Robin's wording might have actually been a bit "gratuitous, unfounded, unfair, and certainly bound to bias students" as one of the more assertive replies remarked, but I kind of felt the same way about Christopher's posting it to those lists.  
Perhaps you could expand on what you found "unfair," etc. If one makes public statements -- especially public allegations -- then one should be prepared to take public response. That's how the "free exchange of ideas" works. Am I to understand that you would prefer it if common historical (or other scholarly) misperceptions went unchallenged?
What was your motivation for forwarding it to those other lists, Christopher?  
Actually, it was only to let them know about the assignment, which I thought was pedagogically innovative. There's a lot of discussion in history of psychology circles about ways of making the topic more interesting to students. Not being a Watson expert myself, I was relatively surprised at the character and unanimity of the response. But I'm also glad to have found out about it. Aren't you?
Or should we have a policy on TIPS that we "keep it in the shop" without the permission of the originator of the post?
Is this a scholarly forum for the exchange of information and ideas, or a secret society? In any case, presumably historians of psychology, most of whom teach in psychology departments just like the people on this list, *are* in the same "shop" as us.

Regards,
--
Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
M3J 1P3

e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: 416-736-5115 ext. 66164
fax: 416-736-5814
http://www.yorku.ca/christo/


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