Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I just looked at the only three behavioral
analysis texts I have (2 from 1979 and 1 from 1993) and all three define a
"negative reinforcer" as an aversive stimulus - one's whose removal
following a response reinforces the behavior.  Interestingly, they also use
the word "escape" where most of us would use the term "negative
reinforcement."  Maybe its a difference between those trained specially in
behavioral analysis and those of us training in other specialties.

Mike

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From: "Paul Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: apparition


> Michael Caruso wrote:
>
> > I agree that using the term "negative reinforcer" in this way would be
> > confising to students.  When I was instructing part-time in grad school,
> the
> > text I was given used the term negative reinforcer in this way.  I
didn't
> > use that term in class, and I assume that most intro texts dropped using
> > that term because it would make a difficult concept (negative
> reinforcement)
> > even more difficult for the novice to understand.  I'm just pointing out
> > that I don't think his graphics are technically incorrect.  I do however
> > think there are much better ways to try to explain the ideas to intro
> > students.
>
>     Hmm. Again, I'm no expert, but I do think that the graphics are
> technically incorrect, and I suspect that the book that you were given to
> teach from in grad school was as well.
>
>     As others have pointed out, there seems to be general agreement that
> "reinforcement" always involves increases in the probability of the
behavior
> (in fact, that "reinforcement" is defined that way). The use of "negative
> reinforcer" as a synonym (or near synonym) for punishment runs directly
> counter to that. I'd be interested in seeing a general definition of
> "reinforcement" in that text that you were given - I'd imagine it would
have
> to be pretty convoluted, in particular because at least at times
> "reinforcement" would be the _opposite_ of what you got from the use of a
> "reinforcer". <insert icon with extremely curious and confused look here>
>
>
> Paul Smith
> Alverno College
> Milwaukee
>
>
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