Gee, I'm going to use up my quota here.

But that's exactly the point of having the sit-down exams, I believe, that we 
really had to KNOW the stuff; we didn't know exactly what would be asked of us 
so we had to know it all for each exam. As I recall, mine were in my 
concentration, outside my concentration, in statistics, and one more I must 
have repressed from my memory!

The one in my concentration, however, was unique in that I was handed a 
manuscript which my major prof had received for review for JEP and was asked to 
review it. It was a great way to challenge everything I knew that was done in 
the field but I suspect also helped him along with his review :-)

Either way, though, while more stressful, I think I was forced to know more 
than I would have in just writing a paper......maybe????

Annette



Quoting Nina Tarner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Doug,
>  
> As a fellow alum from Kansas State you probably know my answer to both
> questions.  I, myself, feel as though the preliminary exams are ridiculous! 
> Not having taken them too long ago ( a couple of years) this is probably a
> sore subject for me. :)  I think the idea of preliminary exams should be
> abolished all together.  I always thought a better idea would be to have
> students write a grant proposal and actually send it in.  This is the
> experience they will need after graduation, not who wrote which articles on
> what date.
>  
> Nina
>       -----Original Message----- 
>       From: Peterson, Douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>       Sent: Wed 3/3/2004 10:27 PM 
>       To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences 
>       Cc: 
>       Subject: Doctoral Preliminary Exams
>       
>       
>       We are currently struggling with revising the dreaded prelims (doctoral
> preliminary examinations) process.  It seems that our number one problem is
> lacking ideas for alternatives to the status quo.  So far the only thing the
> faculty are unanimous on is that the current system needs to change, but all
> suggested changes have failed to meet the required vote (2/3).  I'm appealing
> to Tipsters in hopes of getting some fresh ideas and thoughts on what prelims
> should be and why?
>        
>       Question #1: Is the purpose of prelims to test competency in a solid
> knowledge base (i.e., content exam) prior to doctoral work or in a general
> skill set (i.e. stats and methods)?
>        
>       Question #2: If it is content based should the content be broad (e.g., 
any
> topic from PSYC 101) or narrow (in the test takers specialization).  
>        
>       Feel free to respond off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or on list - I'm 
curious
> to see if the differences of opinion on this list are as great as they are in
> our department.    
>        
>       Doug
>        
>        
>       Doug Peterson
>       Associate Professor of Psychology
>       The University of South Dakota
>       Vermillion SD 57069
>       (605) 677-5295
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Department of Psychology
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