Is this why they've started using those yellow glasses to supposedly
help night vision? Does it really work? Or is that just bogus? (I
haven't tried them, but my local optometrist has offered to let me
borrow some to see if they help.)

Marte Fallshore

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Stephen is correct.  The usual textbook presentation of rod and cone 
sensitivity is normalized and one would need to go back to older 
literature to determine absolute sensitivity values.

I can think of one reason why the practical advice advice is to use red

light over white light.  The typical peak sensitivity value for rods is

498 nm, which spectrally is a  green-blue.  Rod sensitivity is closer
to 
the middle (green) and long (red) wave cones than to the short wave 
(blue) cones.  So why don't we use a blue light to keep our rods at 
maximum sensitivity?  One reason may be the fact that we have fewer
(and 
less densely spaced) short-wave cones.  Therefore we may need more 
absolute light energy to produce activation of the short-wave system to

produce the experience of white (assuming simple additive activation). 
 
A second variable to consider in the argument is the absolute number
(or 
density) of each type of cone.  From this view, the optimal manner to 
arouse the cone system is to use a spectral wavelength that would 
simultaneously activate a couple of cones.  In this case, a good bet 
would be a yellow.

And, as a matter of fact,  yellow lights are used in photographic 
darkrooms commonly. 

Ken


Stephen Black wrote:

>I agree that dark adaptation can take place under weak red light, but
I'm
>not so sure about the further comment that this will stimulate the
cones
>more than the rods. I know this is a widely-believed claim, and was
>apparently put into effect during the Battle of Britain during WWII
to
>allow off-duty pilots to maintain dark adaptation while still using
their
>cones for useful vision (even have a reference for that, somewhere).
I
>love that story!
>
>The only trouble is I've come to the conclusion that the claim (not
the
>story) is a myth. At long wavelengths of light, the sensitivity of
rods
>falls to a level comparable to that of cones, but not below it, as far
as
>I can determine. The belief that cones are more sensitive to red
light
>than rods comes from the common textbook practice of displaying
>sensitivity curves for rods and cones each separately normalized so
that
>the maximum rod response is 100% and the maximum cone response is
100%.
>Then it looks as though cones continue to respond well into the red,
while
>rods have shut down entirely. This is highly misleading. When
>appropriately plotted, it's clear that both show about the same
low-level
>response, although you have to go back to some pretty early literature
to
>find it displayed this way.
>
>If the point is to retain some degree of useful vision while keeping
the
>eyes at maximum sensitivity in the dark, then the red light trick
won't
>work. Astronomers have debated this point, because they'd like to
read
>star maps while maintaining dark adaptation. The conclusion I find
>convincing is that it really doesn't matter whether you use red or
white
>light (in fact, reading under red light may be particularly
difficult), as
>long as you keep the intensity down to the minimum that still allows
>reading.
>
>I've thought about writing up a note on this, but some degree of
chutzpah
>would be involved, given the highly technical nature of such a topic.
>Safer just to talk about it on TIPS.
>
>Stephen
>
>Stephen Black
>Department of Psychology
>Bishop's University
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