I completely agree with the limitations of the Stanford study. I discuss this at 
length with my students (when we cover it in Social). I typically describe it as a 
study and never an experiment (although subjects were randomly assigned to be 
prisoners or guards).
With respect to the prison scandal I find it much more useful to draw instead on the 
carefully conducted and extensive social psychological literature showing the power of 
the situation.
Marie

On Monday, May 24, 2004 12:20 PM, Ken Steele wrote:
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>Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 12:20:47 -0400
>From: Ken Steele
>To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Stanford Prison Exp -- A Teacher's "Teaching Moment"
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>The results of the "Stanford Prison Experiment" are being widely applied
>as an explanation of the events at Abu Graihb.  Frankly, I see the basis
>of this application as only a superficial extension of the standard
>"power of the situation" argument.  Otherwise there are many differences
>between the two cases.
>
>I am not, and have never been, impressed with the Stanford Prison
>Experiment *as an experiment.*  The continued citation of this work
>seems to violate everything that we try to teach students in research
>methods classes.  The procedure seems replete with the opportunity for
>subjects to pick up role-playing cues from the experimenters.  The
>dependent measures are very loose and subject to selective attention by
>the experimenters.  There has been no systematic replication and
>extension of the work by independent researchers. What is the
>theoretical and practical legacy of this work beyond a "power of the
>situation" demonstration?
>
>Sure there is a great video and lots of attention-capturing anecdotes
>for sleepy undergrads.  But aren't we trying to teach our students to be
>wary of basing conclusions using this type of information?
>
>I invite psychology instructors to skip the textbook descriptions, to
>read the original article and decide whether its fame is due to good
>titillation or to good science.
>
>Here is a link to the original article in pdf format:
>
>http://www.prisonexp.org/pdf/ijcp1973.pdf
>
>Ken
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>Professor
>Department of Psychology          http://www.psych.appstate.edu
>Appalachian State University
>Boone, NC 28608
>USA
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