P. S. If you go to Gerry's web site, you will also see some research we having been doing with IRBs and the problems that can arise. The IRB-RAT page does not work right now--but it will in couple of hours. I was going to post something about that soon because IRBs seem to be a recurring interest here. Also a cautionary piece on EVTs--which many think is about where things really are when it comes to psychotherapy.

Patricia Keith-Spiegel

----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Spiegel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: APA President-elect



As a close friend and working colleague of Dr. Koocher's for over 30 years, I just have to respond to this thread, which is going off in a most unfair direction, both to Gerry for sure, and IMO to APA. (Stephen--the guy who took time to help you out is exactly how you should remember him! ) Gerry should not be judged by his interest in sharing "all sides of all stories."
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