I don't know. Think of Ebbinghaus' kids; I heard a famous cognitive 
psychologist give a presentation at a major conference APA(?) many years ago 
(Bower?) who provided the anecdote that Ebbinghaus used his children as 
subjects. Can you imagine? How tedious and no choice in the matter.

But that is by way of introduction to my thought that when working with your 
own children perhaps outside oversight is even more important because in our 
passion for the research we can lose objectivity. And, it should be treated 
like any other study if it is 'research'.

Annette

Quoting jim clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi
> 
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Bill Scott wrote:
> 
> > Does he plan to publish the results as a member of your institution? If 
> > so, then the IRB should be involved.
> 
> I think that Bill is technically correct about how most IRBs
> would interpret such a plan, but it perhaps illustrates how
> distorted (perverse?) ethics requirements have become in the
> social sciences.  This parent can do pretty much what he or she
> wants with a child (within the law of course), and the parent
> could disseminate the results however (media, internet, book,
> ...).  But somehow wanting to publish the results in a
> professional journal places all kinds of restrictions on the
> conduct of the parent and mandates prior approval.  It is not
> exactly clear how this benefits either the child or research.  
> Imagine poor Piaget if ethics reviews had been the norm in his
> day!  Perhaps we shouldn't be disseminating his ideas given they
> were based on data collected in an unprincipled way according to
> current guidelines.
> 
> Best wishes
> Jim
> 
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Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D.
Department of Psychology
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