On Fri, 13 May 2005, Christopher D. Green went:

I have little doubt that something like this happens to some
students sometimes.  But almost any sequence of events you'd care to
describe happens to some students sometimes. That's why anecdotes
are of questionable value as evidence.

Oh, I agree. This is a question that needs empirical investigation.

Now, having looked at the Harp article, I question whether their
methods gave a fair shake to the inclusion of seductive details.  They
explicitly acknowledge that what they did was to introduce tangential
or irrelevant "fluff," not fascinating *examples*.  Of course that's
going to distract students; that isn't news.

They also say: "[S]eductive details confuse readers [or listeners, I
assume] as to what a lesson is actually about....If the prior
knowledge base around which they are organizing the new material is
inappropriate (i.e., irrelevant), then it is unlikely that students
will understand the new material."

I always sought to avoid that problem by distributing detailed
lecture-outline handouts for my students to follow as I spoke.  The
students in the Harp study received no such organizational
assistance--just four minutes of tape-recorded talk with or without
irrelevant factoids distractingly dropped in.

Thought-provoking study.  Needs replication and extension with
different procedures.

--David Epstein
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