We're also waiting for O.J. to find the real murderer. Wanna bet on which
occurs first?

-Don.

Stephen Black said:
> Not too long ago loquacious Louis cited the great Albert Einstein for
> the following:
>
> "A lot of what can be counted doesn't count, and a lot of what counts
> can't be counted", which he referenced to either _The World as I See
> It_ or _Ideas and Opinions_.
>
> Sceptical TIPSters (shame on them!) queried the attributation to
> Einstein. Jean-Marc Perrault, for example, checked _The World as I  See
> It_, and found no such quotation within. I've now obtained a copy  of
> _Ideas and Opinions_ (Laurel reprint edition, 1976), which turns  out to
> be a large collection of some of  Einstein's popular writing  (generally
> short essays) on a variety of topics. There's no index, so  I browsed
> among the most likely essays, looking for the quote or a  reasonable
> facsimile. I didn't find it (although it's possible I
> missed it). In the meantime, I must warn that the quote is unverified
> and apocryphal.
>
> Louis also told us, back on May 6/05:
>
> "I'll tell you what. As an exercise I'll take Allen up on his
> challenge to see just where that quote originates...don't know how  long
> it'll take, but I will find it. Promise."
>
> On a related matter, I had asserted that the more famous quote
> routinely attributed to Einstein, "Everything should be made as
> simple as possible but not simpler" and its variant "A theory should  be
> made as simple as possible but not simpler" is listed by Alice
> Calaprice (2000) in her _The Expanded Quotable Einstein_ as "possibly
> by Einstein" but unverified.
>
> Jeff Bartel suggested the origin of this quote was:
>
>  "The supreme goal of all theory is to make the irreducible basic
> elements as simple and as few as possible without having to surrender
> the adequate representation of a single datum of experience", which  he
> attributed to apparently a book by Einstein called _On the Method  of
> Theoretical Physics_ (1933) published by Oxford University Press.
>
> This seems a reasonable suggestion although less quotable than the
> unverified version which may well have been someone else's adept
> paraphrase of it. However,  I'm happy to report that Einstein did say
> what Jeff said he did, with only minor modifications.
>
> One is the that the source is not a book but the Herbert Spencer
> Lecture delivered by Einstein at Oxford, June 10, 1933 and published  in
> _Mein Weltbild, Amersterdam: Querido Verlag, 1934.
>
> How do I know? Because it's reprinted in _Ideas and Opinions_. The
> version given there is close but not identical to Jeff's. It says:
>
> "It is the grand object of all theory to make these irreducible
> elements as simple and as few in number as possible, without having  to
> renounce the adequate representation of any empirical content
> whatever".
>
> BTW, Calaprice herself suggests the origin of the saying is another
> Einstein quote, "A theory is the more impressive the greater the
> simplicity of its premises, the more different kinds of things it
> relates, and the more extended its area of applicability", from his
> "Autobiographical Notes" in Schilpp, Albert Einstein Philosopher-
> Scientist. But I think Jeff''s is the more promising origin. .
>
> And Louis, we're still waiting for you to keep your promise.
>
> Stephen
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