All of which leads to an interesting situation where the students really don't
want to and do not see the value of pursuing the dissertation but are
forced to
as part of their graduation requirements.
Interestingly, I have often come across a similar attitude in regards to
education and physical education PhDs. I have known 2 PE PHDs who were
probably
among the most brilliant people I have ever known, but it took them years of
working in human factors psychology to gain respect. And really, how
many of us
have heard people snicker when they meet an EdD? Let's be honest
now...I bet all
of us have heard a snicker or two---regardless of whether it is
deserved or not.
So now the PsyD candidates and their programs are being put into a
dilemma. This
may result in a relaxation of criteria for dissertation rigor.
Just a thought...
Annette
Quoting Marc Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Ah. Thanks. I always wondered about that. I've long considered the
PhD to be at root an academic degree, and assumed the PsyD was more the
pracitioner track. So I couldn't really understand why the programs
were so similar in structure.
m
________________________________
From: David Wasieleski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:20 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
Subject: RE: astonishing Psy.D. dissertation
For a PsyD program to receive APA accreditation, they may need a
research requirement of some kind (since APA still follows the
scientist-practitioner model). In many states, to be licensed, you need
to come from an APA accredited program.
David
At 03:10 PM 1/19/2006, you wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Green [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
[snip]
>
> Perhaps we're debating ideals vs. realitites, but it
seems
> pretty clear to me that anyone who gets a PsyD does so
> precisely because they want to a clinician, rather
than a
> scholar, first and foremost. (Not that one couldn't be
both,
> but many have no interest in being both, even within
clinical
> PHD programs.)
This, in my previous experience, is true of nearly all
PsyD students.
Which makes me wonder: why do PsyD programs have
dissertations at all?
m
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