Sub Heading: "I haven't had a cup of coffee yet this morning so this may be 
completely goofy but . . ."

Karl- Possibly. But virtually every strong PhD level candidate that we've had 
here at ACI over the last 15 years has scored higher on quant than on the 
verbal when taking the GRE (I did go back and check- it's over 95%! All four of 
the faculty as well- maybe it is US that's weird.). It is, of course, a small 
and likely odd sample (as every small sample is possibly when considered 
alone). I'm almost wondering if there hasn't been a change in the population of 
those who take the test across that time. If, for example, that results had at 
one time predicted success (higher quant score), with a change that meant fewer 
and fewer of those strong-in-verbal-but-weak-in-quant-skills took it would put 
a ceiling on the predictability wouldn't it? (I have no idea how but it seems 
such a hypothesis could be tested?) Personally, I suspect it is more complex 
than any such simple explanation. :) 

FYI - We separate strong PhD from those we view to be average or more likely to 
succees at the Master's level and even discuss that with most of the students 
when they ask for letters. Some of them don't like it, and we do try to be 
encouraging (I'm one of those who would meet our criteria for likely to do 
better in a masters program and I thrived in a PhD program so we don't present 
this to them as more than our clinical judgment and most of our students are 
savy in that literature! In my case, I had a poor high school, was poorly 
motivated and lacked good study skills (and habits) so had a pretty C- first 
two years- but a really good time!). Many have come back later and thanked us 
for pointing them in the right direction. So far, only one has shown us to be 
the complete goofs we probably are! :)

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Wuensch, Karl L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sun 1/22/2006 11:25 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
Subject: Re: GRE Norms
 
    A colleague of mine, and former director of a testing center at which 
the GRE was administered, suggested that the drop in verbal GRE and rise in 
quantitative GRE has been due to the increasing numbers of foreign students 
taking the GRE.

Cheers,

Karl W.

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