Bill Batchelder used to tell us (in grad school), "All models are wrong
in detail."

I think he stole it, though.  :)

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Palij [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:57 AM
> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
> Cc: Mike Palij
> Subject: RE: in search of "All models are wrong..." quotation
> 
> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:30:01 -0800, Horton, Joseph J. wrote:
> >I can come close:
> >"Since all models are wrong the scientist must be alert to what is 
> >importantly wrong." (p. 792) Box, G. E. P. (1976). Science and 
> >Statistics. Journal of the American Statistical Association, 71, 
> >791-799.
> 
> Although this is close, a quick search of several databases 
> shows that the most likely source is:
> 
> Box, G.E.P., Robustness in the strategy of scientific model 
> building, in Robustness in Statistics, R.L. Launer and G.N. 
> Wilkinson, Editors. 1979, Academic Press: New York.
> 
> I found the above reference in a discussion on this website:
> http://www.anecdote.com.au/archives/2006/01/all_models_are.html
> 
> I can't find an electronic version of this paper but another 
> search found the quote and the Box (1979) ref  in the 
> following article which is available online if one has access 
> to Sage journals:
> 
> Weakliem, D.L. (2004).  Introduction to the Special Issue on 
> Model Selection. Sociological Methods & Research, vol. 33, 
> no. 2, pp. 167-187, November 2004  
>  
> For people involved in stat/math model development, the 
> entire issue is pretty interesting.  One citation in the 
> Weakliem paper that caught my eye is:
> 
> Sala-i-Martin, Xavier X. 1997. "I Just Ran Two Million 
> Regressions." American Economic Review (Papers and
> Proceedings) 87:178-83.
> 
> I think I just found a new definition of "overkill".
> 
> -Mike Palij
> New York University
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> >I can send a copy of the paper if you like.
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >Joseph J. Horton Ph. D.
> >In God we trust. All others must bring data.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:12 PM
> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
> Subject: in search of "All models are wrong..." quotation[Spam score:
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> 
> Anyone happen to have this book?
> 
>    _Robustness in Statistics_, R.L. Launer and G.N. Wilkinson,
>    Editors. New York: Academic Press, 1979.
> 
> It contains a chapter by George Box called "Robustness in the 
> strategy of scientific model building."  And the chapter is 
> the source of a well-known quotation, variously rendered as:
> 
> "All models are wrong, some are useful."  (Ugh.  Comma 
> splice.) "All models are wrong, but some are useful."
> "All models are wrong; some models are useful."
> 
> What's the correct version?
> 
> thanks,
> David Epstein
> 
> 
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