Welcome to the world of Michael Sylvester. I know of 4-5 colleagues in my department who have stopped subscribing to TIPS because of the observations Marc made of the last post. Although Michael claims he is promoting a non eurocentric view of psychology, most of his questions/statements would embarrass the students in my son's HS psychology class.
Gary J. Klatsky, Ph. D. Director, Human Computer Interaction M.A. Program Department of Psychology [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oswego State University (SUNY) http://www.oswego.edu/~klatsky 7060 State Hwy 104W Voice: (315) 312-3474 Oswego, NY 13126 Fax: (315) 312-6330 All of us who are concerned for peace and triumph of reason and justice must be keenly aware how small an influence reason and honest good will exert upon events in the political field. Albert Einstein -----Original Message----- From: Marc Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 8:42 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: RE: NASCAR/Moslem experiment(?) It was mostly the last line that got me, and convinced me there was no reasoned intelligence behind the post, no curiosity, no interest in talking. It was a "neener-neener" sort of post. I just hate that. If people want to debate and argue with me, they'll find I'm an eager opponent (being opinionated helps). But if people want to post drive-by crap meant to annoy, then that's just trollish behavior and I have no tolerance for that. Even if he had posted a reference, his last line belies any attempt he might make for engagement, for serious discussion. It's childish. And to think that only Islam is intolerant is the very height of absurdity. Any thinking human has to know that *all* religions have histories of intolerance. *All* of them. They have to: they each have had, in their histories, a unique claim of "truth." So it just (excuse me) pissed me off. I'm sorry if my note bothered people, but his note was just stupid. So, apologies to the group if I annoyed you. I guess annoyance is one of those things that tends to spread.... m > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven Specht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 8:29 AM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences > Subject: Re: NASCAR/Moslem experiment(?) > > I agree with your analysis Marc... but to couch it in terms > of "a study" and drop it out there in cyberspace (especially > to this list) without an intelligent dose of qualification > like yours, is at least irresponsible (if not inflammatory). > > On Apr 7, 2006, at 8:44 AM, G. Marc Turner wrote: > > > At 07:09 AM 4/7/2006, you wrote: > >> Once again Michael, would you provide a reference (even if it's > >> simply a website to the original news story) for your > colleagues on > >> this list? > > > > For the NASCAR demonstration (I wouldn't call it an experiment...), > > here are a few references: > > > > http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20060406-113706-3050r > > > > > http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2006-04-06-dateline_x.htm > > http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12174110/ > > > > http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi > > -0604060230apr06,1,7248899.story?coll=chi-sportsnew-hed > > > > I actually heard about this well before seeing the email from > > Michael... I tend to agree with the view that "news" > stories like this > > are attempts to create news rather than report it... but I don't > > exactly view Dateline NBC as a "news" show, so I'm not going to get > > too worked up over it... > > > > As for Michael's last comment... I think every religion has > displayed > > intolerance for other religions/groups at one time or > another... but > > I'm sure you could find a few recent news stories about > people in the > > middle-east demonstrating intolerance... In fact, isn't it > a crime to > > convert away from Islam in some countries? A crime punishable by > > death? That to me seems a bit intolerant... not saying any > other group > > is any better and I wouldn't put all Arabs/Moslems into the same > > category either... just like I wouldn't put all people > living in the > > southern US together in the same category... So, I don't > see Michael's > > last statement as inflammatory but rather a statement concerning > > recent news reports that I've seen coming out of the middle-east... > > > > - Marc > > > > > > > > > > ============================================= > > G. 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