At 3:45 PM -0700 5/16/06, Annette Taylor, Ph. D. wrote:
NOT typical of my students. I find that our students, maybe because they are in California and it's a very competitive job market and high cost of living around here, are MORE likely to do as much as they can to maximize their grades. They are willing to do inordinate amounts of extra work to earn a higher mastery grade. The majority are far more likely to get by on grit and willpower to make up for what they might lack in intellectual ability and I was thinking that was troublesome. But maybe I'd better shut up and be happy I have students willing to bust their buns for mastery.

My speculations center on more local demographic details.
Don't know what kind of school you are; we're a second (charitably) tier state university (normal school => state college => state university). Nominally we have some admission standards, but any high school graduate can be admitted with a recommendation from their high school, any student who drops out for three years becomes 'nontraditional' and has no admission requirements, and we must accept any transfer from any community college in the state.
Functionally, therefore, we're open admission, and it shows.
I've had students in my class who were in the bottom quarter of their high school classes.
Students like this have never experienced an A; it's not part of their reality.
Further, many of my students are parents (I often find out when they excuse an absence by saying that their day care fell through, or they bring their kid to class ;-). For whatever reason, many of them feel that they can be a full time college student in their spare time.

BTW -- extra credit in a mastery system?
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