According to Harris, parents have a strong influence on the their children's 
characteristics and behavior in the home; on their values, beliefs, and habits 
of various sorts; on their peer environments as you mention, which would mean 
that they have an indirect influence on socialization.  She also repeatedly 
affirms that the relationship between parent and child itself "matters", 
regardless of its effect on socialization or personality.

Paul
 
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  To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) 
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  I have read her books. They are good reads. And (without a rereading) I would 
stick by my description of her thesis as "parents don't matter except by 
passing on their genes" (and possibly creating positive peer environments for 
their children).
  Marie

  Paul Okami wrote:

    Judith Harris does not argue that "parents don't matter."  Why do people 
keep saying this?  All it takes is a read.  Her books are good reads, by the 
way.

    Paul Okami
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      From: Marie Helweg-Larsen 
      To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) 
      Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 9:01 AM
      Subject: [tips] Re: Stopping smoking


      Yes, Judith Harris argues that parents don't matter (as she always does) 
except by passing on their genes. However, tons of research show that the more 
adult smokers a child is exposed to the more likely it is that she smokes (not 
just genetically related adults). Kids themselves also say that they are 
influenced by what their parents say about smoking (the point: children 
interpret no anti-smoking messages or ambiguous anti-smoking messages as 
implicit consent/support for smoking).

      Crawford, M. A. (2001). Cigarette smoking and adolescents: Messages they 
see and hear. Public Health Reports, 116, 203-215. 

      I do find it humorous (in a weird way) that we assign the task of 
designing/implementing anti-smoking campaigns to the tobacco industry. And they 
don't do a good job -- I'm shocked!!!

      Marie


      [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
The NY Times has an interesting editorial (Nov, 27/06, "When don't smoke 
means do")  on research on the effectiveness of  tobacco company 
advertising to get kids to stop smoking (big surprise: it's not).
It's at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/27/opinion/27mon1.html

(you may need to register (free) to see it)

A bonus is that one of our favourite gadflies takes exception to an 
observation (and implied suggestion) of the editorial writer, namely that 
"Somehow the company [Philip Morris] forgot to tell the parents, as role 
models, to stop smoking themselves". 

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/03/opinion/l03smoke.html

Stephen

(Say, did anyone notice that we now have a university professor, Stephane 
Dion,  as the new leader of our traditional ruling party, the Liberals 
(he taught political science at the Universite de Montreal)? The front-
running candidate he defeated was also a university professor, at some 
other school called Harvard. Do you suppose this trend to politician 
profs could catch on elsewhere, say, for example, in the Excited States? 
Over lawyers, movie stars, and whatever it was that George Bush was?)



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