At 09:28 AM 3/3/2007, you wrote:
Good point about the reanalysis. Yes, the authors of the grief piece
apparently felt that their primary results were too disturbing to let
stand without massage, and so tried to have it both ways. That
"rescaling" is rather dodgy, though.

Or they realized that the results of one study do not signify the "death" of the stages approach. The findings might be cause for taking a step back and asking more questions, doing more research, etc., but the findings of any one study alone should not have earth shattering consequences. It could be Type I error run amok in the study and future studies could find support for the stages... not saying they will, but it's a possibility.


But the real news is that at long last someone tried to test the stages
empirically, even if their test was of what the theory has become, not
what Kubler-Ross proposed, and even if they didn't have the courage to
stand by their results.

Or they realize the importance of displaying objectivity in their research and are willing to admit that the meaning of the findings is tentative until further support can be found. Rather than jumping up and down screaming Kubler-Ross is dead (or even the more reserved sitting in their office laughing at the "poor misguided believers" in the theory) they understand that their one study does not change the world. It is only through future replication of the findings that such a claim could begin to be made. They aren't saying the stages theory is correct and their study is wrong, but they are showing proper scientific reservation about the meaning of their findings... something that I think is becoming more rare as more researchers feel the need to make more of their findings than is really there. Of course, this is without me actually having read the article or anything about it and going simply based on what I've seen here...

END NOTE: And, I really haven't been following this thread at all until the last few posts and don't really have much of an opinion on either side, though my first real college paper was on how children cope with being diagnosed with terminal illness and the death and dying process in that group... anyway, the point is that if this is truly one of the first "empirical" studies, then it is hard to make much of the claim. The first studies on the Mozart effect seemed to find great effects, though others seem to have trouble finding those same effects. And although any single case-study in a clinical setting might be lacking in external validity, when combined across multiple clients seen by the same therapist and those of other therapists, it does add some strength to the argument.... yes, that approach is still going to have confounding factors that need to be addressed and research needs to be done rather than blindly accepting a particular viewpoint that sounds good. But, if something has had good clinical outcomes, it is going to take more than a single study to make it go away... unless you want to blindly believe the results of a single study. (again admitting I haven't followed the thread or really read anything in the area since my freshman year of college, so there could be more studies out there than I'm aware of...)

And now back to the stack of mid-terms that has been calling out to me for a couple of days...
- Marc


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G. Marc Turner, PhD, MEd, Network+, MCP
Senior Lecturer & Technology Coordinator
Department of Psychology
Texas State University-San Marcos
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