Ah! I now see the dilemma. OK. You are caught between a rock and a hard 
place--what I failed to get the first time is that the OT an other programs are 
independent of the psych BA. You are in a difficult posiiton and I guess I have 
no good suggestions for a solution for you. Sorry.

Although, how many courses can be 'doubled-dipped', and would that be a problem 
in the big picture of life, etc?

Annette


Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D.
Professor of Psychology
University of San Diego
5998 Alcala Park
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>Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 11:38:18 -0500
>From: "DeVolder Carol L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>Subject: [tips] Re: dilemma  
>To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" <[email protected]>
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>Hi Annette,
>One possibility is that students preparing for the Physical Therapy program 
>could take the 400-level behavioral neuroscience course as part of the BA or 
>BS requirement, then in the DPT program, they could take Neuroanatomy, which 
>is essentially how you laid it out. It means more credits are required, which 
>impacts the "selling point" so I am not completely sure of the ramifications 
>in the long run.  I'm also not sure about the OT program. The psych major 
>requires Behavioral Neuroscience and the OT program requires it as well, so I 
>don't know what would happen if we (psych) pulled back there and no longer 
>counted it for both--I'm not even sure we can do that, it may be solely up to 
>the OT program whether they count it or not. Now I'm not sure I'm expressing 
>myself clearly! But it helps to discuss it like this--it allows me to think 
>about some of the possible outcomes, so thanks!
>Carol
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>>Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:31:58 -0500
>>From: "DeVolder Carol L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>>Subject: [tips] dilemma 
>>To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" <[email protected]>
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>>Some of my department members see this as "double-dipping"
>
>No research to help you with, no direct experience to help you with, but 
>tangential experience. I have seen masters programs in psyhcology where one 
>can complete requirements for a doctoral program while in that master's 
>program; and I have seen these units "count" towards a master's program. They 
>are considered 'electives', so to speak.
>
>Here then is my question: if they don't take the neuroanatomy class just once, 
>to satisfy separate requirements in each program, then what would they take to 
>satisfy the requirement? For example, can you require the neuroanatomy class 
>for the BA and then a different course for the grad level program? If so, 
>what? Students who begin the grad program then would have to have the 
>neuroanatomy in their background; and if they don't have it would have to take 
>it in the grad program, but would already have a BA in that case. Am I 
>expressing myself sufficiently clearly?
>
>Annette
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>Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D.
>Professor of Psychology
>University of San Diego
>5998 Alcala Park
>San Diego, CA 92110
>619-260-4006
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