Hi

James M. Clark
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>>> Harzem Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10-Jun-07 4:46:49 PM >>>
On Jun 10, 2007, at 3:49 PM, Jim Clark wrote:
> "His work redefined knowledge 'as a matter of conversation and of  
> social practice, rather than as an attempt to mirror nature' and  
> thus redefined philosophy itself as an unending, democratically  
> disciplined, social and cultural activity of inquiry, reflection,  
> and exchange, rather than an activity governed and validated by the  
> concept of objective, extramental [sic] truth."

While I am no supporter of all of Rotry's positions,  I think the  
notion that he was anti-scientific goes too far.   Note two points in  
the above quotation:   (1) It is about 'knowledge' and not only one  
kind of knowledge namely science;  (2) with regard to 'objective,  
experimental truth' Rorty's point was that [all] knowledge  cannot  
and should not exclusively be governed and validated  by scientific  
truth.

JC:
It has been a few years since reading Rorty, but my recollection (perhaps 
wrong) was that his statement about knowledge being conversation applied to all 
knowledge, which would deny access to objective truth even by scientific 
approaches.  Hence my choice of the term "anti-science."

I do not want to extend this topic, important though it is; so, let  
me end with the following observation.    If  it were possible to  
measure the totality of knowledge held by any member of this list, it  
would be found that for each of us 'scientific' knowledge constitutes  
the small portion of the totality; the rest would be such things as  
father's,  mother's and sibling's names, where you live and what is  
your income, how to eat with a knife  and fork, who are your friends,  
what they are like, etc., etc., etc. and so, endlessly.
Peter

JC:
So was Rorty claiming that these kinds of knowledge were not based on objective 
truths?  That is, it is debatable whether my father's name was James Harold 
Clark and that my mother's maiden name was Florence Brittain.  I thought Rorty 
was emphasizing more deliberative types of knowledge of interest to 
psychologists and other academics.

Take care
Jim




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