Michael you are on a roll: too much sun lately? re: Kitty Genovese, I asked whether any tipsters have any information on this suggestion that the evidence as presented might have been embellished. I NEVER suggested it never happened. Clearly she WAS murdered!
Equally clearly the work of Latane and Darley and many others since has documented by-stander apathy, diffusion of responsibility, etc. What I am asking is whether the bystander apathy effect was as pervasive as suggested in the early New York times report--even in Latane & Darley's studies they found that EVENTUALLY someone DOES help out. Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 619-260-4006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---- Original message ---- >Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 15:42:44 -0400 >From: "Christopher D. Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [tips] Re: Tuskegee :racist study >To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" <[email protected]> > > Just for the record, "Chris" never made any comments > about the Tuskegee study. "He" finds the report by > the historian that has been cited here several times > before by Stephen interesting, but "he" is also wary > of revisionists with an agenda. And "he" doesn't > have enough interest in the topic to find out > whether this particular "revision" is an even-handed > reassessment or just an attempt to sweep an > unpleasant historical episode under the carpet (in > the mold of holocaust deniers). > > What Chris did comment on was Michael's easy > willingness to decry "racism" while, in the very > same breath, dismissing others' opinions on the > basis of nothing more than their nationality. > Principles must have broader application or they are > only so much self-serving "baloney." > > Regards, > Chris Green > York U. > Toronto > =============== > > Michael Sylvester wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Warmbold" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences > (TIPS)" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 2:24 PM > Subject: [tips] Re: Tuskegee :racist study > > Sorry Michael but your post was a classic > non-sequitur. Might work with > many white Americans who have every reason to > feel shame and guilt about > the countless racist events in our history--up > through Bushies taking > ex-cons off the voting polls. But Chris's > comments about the Tuskegee > study were well cited and supported. If you > feel you can reasonably > dispute folks comments about the cited study, go > for it. But to dispute > listserv members' comments based on them not > living in the US?? Totally > irrelevant. > > Joan > > Baloney is still baloney whether it comes from > cited studies or so called authoritative > references. I may agree that someone who is not a > part of the system can present a more objective > outlook,however not being a part of the system can > have certain disadvantages.I woild prefer the > field studies > of Margaret Mead in Somoa anytime(She lived among > the Somoans) to a treatise presented by someone > who never met a Somoan. > Let us not forget to differentiate between past > and current validity. > One of the problems with this Eurocentric penchant > for objectivity is the isolation of the > independent variable robs reality of real content. > And now we are going to analyze the Kitty Genovese > event? I guess it never happened. > Come on gimme a break. > > Michael Sylvester,PhD > Daytona Beach,Florida > > --- > To make changes to your subscription go to: > > http://acsun.frostburg.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=tips&text_mode=0&lang=english > > > > --- > To make changes to your subscription go to: > > http://acsun.frostburg.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=tips&text_mode=0&lang=english --- To make changes to your subscription go to: http://acsun.frostburg.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=tips&text_mode=0&lang=english
