Paul (I think)- Which version of Sniffy were you using. I found shaping to be very simple (and to very closely match my experience with "real" rats). :) I too was using Sniffy Pro- and I did shaping as a demonstration in class- more than once. I have to admit that, if anything, shaping seemed to be a bit easier with the simulation than in reality (except that in reality you can "seed" the bar and speed things up!). :) But I'd never teach that as a principle! Tim
_______________________________ Timothy O. Shearon, PhD Professor and Chair Department of Psychology Albertson College of Idaho Caldwell, ID 83605 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] teaching: intro to neuropsychology; psychopharmacology; general; history and systems "it is not enough these days to simply QUESTION AUTHORITY. You have to speak with it, too." - Taylor Mali -----Original Message----- From: Paul Brandon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 8/26/2007 11:12 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] RE: Sniffy vs real rats Problem is, Sniffy (at least the last time I tried it) was NOT based on the data of the behavior of a live rat. If you try to shape it the way that you would shape a real living organism nothing happens. You have to follow its instructions. --- To make changes to your subscription go to: http://acsun.frostburg.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=tips&text_mode=0&lang=english
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