The replies to this question that cite Seligman (actually Overmier and 
Seligman) and Guthrie have me confused.  The question of what is "learned" in 
learned helplessness is a problem, but seems to have little relevance to one 
experience with porcupine quills.  One could make the case that, if the 
experience stopped the ongoing behavior of chasing and catching a porcupine, 
Guthrie might consider this as potentially reinforcing.

I will got along with the Breland reference.  Dogs do what dogs do, whether it 
makes sense to us or not.  My mother's westie (yappy little monster) "caught" a 
skunk recently.  An unpleasant event for her, but she is sure he would do it 
again.



Michael T. Scoles, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Psychology & Counseling
University of Central Arkansas
Conway, AR 72035
501-450-5418
>>> "Jean-Marc Perreault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/29/07 5:19 PM >>>
An interesting question arose a while back... 

Why do dogs, after biting into a porcupine (which is a very unpleasant
event, with sometimes harsh consequences, <<such as having needles that
are shaped as fish hooks pulled out of the mouth with pliers>> keep
going after other porcupines later on? 

Would one argue that instinctual behaviour (that of chasing small
critters) overcome, or even prevent, learning?

I'm quite interested in the answer to that one...

Cheers!

Jean-Marc



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