Hi All,

Jim asks some important questions and highlights the complexity involved 
in discussing these concerns.

Jim Clark wrote:

>1.  With respect to the AMA ban
>
>Surely there must be many MDs working in these facilities?  Has the AMA 
>actually taken steps to remove the license of anyone or are such bans 
>primarily symbolic?  I read somewhere, perhaps incorrectly, that the AMA ban 
>did not identify use of drugs as a means of torture.  Is this correct?  Does 
>it considerably weaken the AMA ban?
>  
>

I have sent information to this list previously outlining some of the 
potential issues involved with the American Medical Association (AMA) 
and American Psychiatric Association (ApA) positions.  They have long 
held stronger positions that the American Psychological Association 
(APA) but their positions are not perfect. The use of drugs is a 
suspected problem but due to the secretive nature of detention centers 
such as the CIA sites and Guantanamo Bay, little is definitively known.  
Regardless, these sites have been condemned by both the United Nations 
Human Rights Council and the International Red Cross based on what is 
known. Both international organizations have called for the immediate 
closure of Guantanamo Bay and related sites based on violations of 
international law.

My personal perspective is that it is best for psychologists to focus on 
improving our positions as opposed to arguing who does it best.  History 
will judge all who have participated in these endeavors. 

Note that most of the work at Guantanamo Bay and related sites done by 
physicians associated with the AMA and ApA are covered under the United 
Nations Principles of Medical Ethics relevant to the Role of Health 
Personnel, particularly Physicians, in the Protection of Prisoners and 
Detainees against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading 
Treatment or Punishment (http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/h_comp40.htm) 
and Declaration 4 of The World Medical Association Declaration of Tokyo. 
Guidelines for Physicians Concerning Torture and other Cruel, Inhuman or 
Degrading Treatment or Punishment in Relation to Detention and 
Imprisonment (http://www.wma.net/e/policy/c18.htm).

For more on this issues, see the Physicians for Human Rights website at 
http://physiciansforhumanrights.org/ .

>2.  With respect to Psychology
>
>Do psychologists perhaps work in other settings that might be impacted by a 
>ban?  For example, do some prisons use isolation as a means of punishment or 
>even to protect inmates from abuse?  Would the resolution apply to such 
>settings?  If not, why not?  
>
>  
>

This is an important question particularly when we start discussing some 
of the "supermax" prisons.  And perhaps, the APA will want to address 
concerns about these prisons at some point. One of the concerns 
expressed by one of the APA governance groups that reviewed the initial 
proposed Moratorium Resolution was that it didn't go far enough to 
include problems associated with domestic prisons.  Nonetheless, the 
current resolution and proposed amendment was solely aimed at, as it 
states in the title, "Application to Individuals Defined in the United 
States Code as "Enemy Combatants." Therefore, the 2007 Resolution does 
not apply to other settings. The resolution may stimulate individuals to 
consider human rights concerns in other situations--not a bad thing for 
us to always evaluate our position on ethical concerns. Nonetheless, the 
2007 Resolution does not apply beyond the focused setting described in 
the title and the resolution.

Another important distinction is that in U.S. prisons, prisoners have 
access to attorneys and the courts.  Therefore, due process is 
maintained and these prisons do not fall under the heading of "cruel, 
inhuman, or degrading" as defined by the 5th, 8th, and 14th amendments 
to the U.S. Constitution.  Although we might perceive many prisons as 
sites of cruelty, the question is a legal question and this is why 
attorneys and the justice system are involved.  We do not place 
psychologists in these sites as a replacement for the legal system to 
protect prisoners during interrogations or as "safety officers" (not my 
label but a label used by a psychologist working at Guantanamo). 
Attorneys are present during interrogations.  Psychologists are largely 
present in a health care capacity at most prisons.


>3.  Military psychologists
>
>Psychologists must work in many capacities that ultimately have a negative 
>impact on people.  Are there not psychologists involved in the development of 
>weapons systems, the training of soldiers to kill, and so on?  Do their 
>actions violate the "do no harm" ethic?  If not, why not? And what about 
>psychologists involvement when the state is arguably the aggressor in a 
>conflict?
>  
>

All excellent questions.  Yes, psychologists play a myriad of roles in 
the military and I'm sure that some would question these positions on 
ethical grounds.  However, neither the APA nor APS has addressed these 
concerns and I don't see them tackling these concerns soon.  Bear in 
mind that the military is the number one employer of psychologists in 
the United States.

I should also note that the military psychologists (Division 19) were 
very supportive of the 2006 APA Resolution Against Torture and Other 
Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading Treatment or Punishment. They are also very 
concerned about the actions of the CIA for which the military 
psychologists are often blamed (e.g. harsh interrogation techniques). 
The Army Field Manual is clear in its limitations of techniques used in 
interrogations and notes that 95% of the time, you get the information 
you need from simple, direct questions and that the use of torture 
elicits a wealth of faulty and misleading information. Military 
psychologists were also active participants in the Ethics and 
Interrogations mini-convention at the APA Convention.

One of the primary concerns in writing the 2007 Resolution is that it 
would be applicable to those outside the military working in 
interrogations with "enemy or illegal enemy combatants" (e.g., CIA 
independent government contractors).  See for information about two 
psychologists who have been implicated in abuses - 
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/06/21/cia_sere/index.html .

The only focus of the 2006 Resolution was the issue of torture and other 
cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment as defined under 
international and domestic law. The only focus of the 2007 Resolution 
was the application of principles to prisoners defined as "enemy 
combatants" or "illegal enemy combatants" as defined under the Military 
Commissions Act of 2006.

What you describe above as potential concerns are less likely to be 
dealt with by professional associations but more likely to be dealt with 
under international law.  Of course, this would largely depend if the 
aggressor were the victor or not.

>4.  War or non-war?
>
>A fundamental question for me is whether acts of terrorism are equivalent to 
>"declarations of war" by a state.  But then it is not clear whether acts are 
>held to a higher standard in times of war or non-war?
>  
>

Interestingly, during times of war, combatants would be defined as 
"enemy combatants" and protected under the Geneva Conventions and a host 
of other UN conventions, declarations, and covenants. The Military 
Commissions Act of 2006 identified a new class of combatant--"illegal 
enemy combatant." According to the US, these individuals have not been 
granted the same protects.  President Bush's position has been clear 
from the start that individuals captured in the "war on terror" are not 
"prisoners of war" and therefore, not afforded the protections outlined 
under international law. The Military Commissions Act made these 
distinctions and their impact on law retroactive.  Of course, many 
international organizations (e.g., the United Nations, the International 
Red Cross) and professional organizations (e.g., American Bar 
Association, ACLU) disagree.

To Peace,

Linda


-- 
Linda M. Woolf, Ph.D.
Professor of Psychology and International Human Rights
Past-President, Society for the Study of Peace, Conflict, & Violence 
(Div. 48, APA) <http://www.peacepsych.org>
Steering Committee, Psychologists for Social Responsibility (PsySR) 
<http://www.psysr.org>
Secretary, Raphael Lemkin Award Committee, Institute for the Study of 
Genocide <http://www.isg-iags.org/>
Coordinator - Holocaust & Genocide Studies
Center for the Study of the Holocaust, Genocide, and Human Rights
Webster University
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