On 12 Nov 2007 at 7:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I thought the Cha prayer study was not just charged with plagiarism but
> that there were other serious flaws in that study. I have to get back to
> reread that.....when I have time....
>

No, no, it was for a different study that Cha was charged with 
plagiarism. The Cha prayer study was all too original.  And yes, there 
were other serious criticisms of it, including why _Fertility and 
Sterility_ ever accepted it. 

Here's what the Chronicle article said about these goings-on 
(Monastersky, Nov. 2/07, "Plagiarism, prayer, and fraud play roles in 
lawsuit against professor") concerning the claims of fraud, deception, 
and/or plagiarism:

"In a commentary published in March, Dr. Flamm described the turbulent 
history of the prayer study. One of the report's authors, Daniel P. 
Wirth, a lawyer, pleaded guilty in 2004 to conspiring to commit mail and 
bank fraud. Later that year, the lead author, Rogerio A. Lobo, a 
professor of obstetrics and gynecology at Columbia University, took his 
name off the paper, saying that he did not know about the research until 
after it had occurred, and that he had provided "only stylistic guidance 
and editorial review." "

"Dr. Cha, who was a researcher at Columbia at the time of the 2001 paper, 
is a renowned physician in South Korea. Cha Medical Group, which he runs, 
owns several hospitals and medical centers in South Korea and the United 
States. Articles in The Chronicle and other newspapers this year reported 
that another study by Dr. Cha was also the subject of controversy. The 
editor of the journal Fertility and Sterility said Dr. Cha and his co-
authors had committed plagiarism in a 2005 paper they published in the 
journal (The Chronicle, February 20). The paper was identical to one 
published in a South Korean journal in January 2004 by researchers other 
than Dr. Cha, according to the news reports." "

Of course, all of these matters are unrelated to the scientific merit of 
the experiment itself (I keep telling myself).

> ps: where'd Jim G. go?

I recall that he voluntarily unsubscribed after being criticized publicly 
(and, I presume, privately) for an ill-advised remark he posted regarding 
the Virginia Tech shooting (responding to my tweaking on the subject of 
Kubler-Ross's grief stages). 

Stephen
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Stephen L. Black, Ph.D.          
Professor of Psychology, Emeritus   
Bishop's University                e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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