Back on April 12 of this year, there was a brief thread on TIPS on the 
Primetime broadcast about a replication of Milgram's study. There was a line in 
the report that indicated that it had been vetted by the APA. Linda Woolf 
contacted the APA for an explanation of the degree of their involvement in the 
ethical decision-making on this experiment (some of which is excerpted below). 
Steve Behnke claimed that, "as far as I know, there was absolutely no vetting 
whatsoever, and certainly no vetting of the ethical aspects."   In the process 
of looking for information on this tape, I just came across a description of 
the process of receiving ethical review for the study at: 
http://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/getArticle.cfm?id=2264.

In the relevant portion, Jerry Burger, the experimenter on this study, writes 
"to address these concerns, I created a list of individuals who were experts on 
Milgram's studies and the ethical questions surrounding this research. I 
offered to make this list available to the IRB. More important, Steven 
Breckler, a social psychologist who currently serves as the executive director 
for science at the American Psychological Association, graciously provided an 
assessment of the proposal's ethical issues that I shared with the IRB."

So while Steve B. (for Behnke) as Director of the APA Ethics office didn't 
provide any ethical analysis of the project, it seems that Steve B. (for 
Breckler) as executive director for science at APA did provide a positive 
assessment of the proposal's ethical issues that was given to the IRB for their 
deliberations. I think the description given by Burger certainly qualifies as a 
vetting of the experiment despite APA's protest.

There may have been some confusion about a distinction between an ethical 
analysis of the TV program and the study but, in the messages below they seem 
to be clearly saying that the experiment received no ethical review from APA 
and that clearly seems to be untrue.

This may all be old news to everyone but it was news to me and, given the 
recent thread on using this tape in classes, I thought it might be relevant for 
teachers to know the extent of APA's involvement in the ethical review.

Rick

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[tips] Re: Milgram replication on ABC
From: Linda Woolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) <[email protected]>
Reply-To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) 
<[email protected]>
Date: Apr 12 2007 - 9:36am



Hi Paul,

When I first read the press release about the program I contacted Dr. Steve 
Behnke, Director of the Ethics Office at APA to ask about the "vetting."  Here 
is Dr. Behnke's reply followed by an email by Rhea Farberman, who handles all 
of the Association's press releases.  The "staff person" mention is Rhea 
Farberman's email, I believe, was in the Science Directorate.

Best,

Linda

****************

Hi Linda,

Good to hear from you-as far as I know, there was absolutely no vetting 
whatsoever, and certainly no vetting of the ethical aspects.  I believe there 
was some communication with the producer, but no vetting, approval/disapproval, 
or anything of that nature by APA.

I'm copying Rhea on this message-Rhea, can you confirm that my account is 
correct?

Thanks so much,

Steve

*****************

Steve, Linda - ABC's claim that APA "vetted" the experiment is incorrect and 
very misleading - we are demanding a correction.  An APA staff person consulted 
with the segment producers on the subject matter but told them to have the 
researcher's university IRB review the study - which was done.

We will post a clarifying statement tomorrow.

Rhea




Paul Okami wrote:


To Chris, and anyone else who might know something about this program: What 
does it mean that ABC "got the approval" of the APA for this broadcast?  How is 
the APA in a position to offer such approval, and what does it mean, anyway?  
Is there some documentation somewhere which includes the APA stamp of approval 
for the show?   For example, does the Monitor discuss it or some such?  I was 
unable to see the program, so I don't know if this issue was discussed.

Thanks,
Paul Okami





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