At 9:11 AM -0600 12/12/07, Rick Froman wrote:
>Back on April 12 of this year, there was a brief thread on TIPS on 
>the Primetime broadcast about a replication of Milgram's study. 
>There was a line in the report that indicated that it had been 
>vetted by the APA. Linda Woolf contacted the APA for an explanation 
>of the degree of their involvement in the ethical decision-making on 
>this experiment (some of which is excerpted below). Steve Behnke 
>claimed that, "as far as I know, there was absolutely no vetting 
>whatsoever, and certainly no vetting of the ethical aspects."   In 
>the process of looking for information on this tape, I just came 
>across a description of the process of receiving ethical review for 
>the study at: 
>http://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/getArticle.cfm?id=2264.
>
>In the relevant portion, Jerry Burger, the experimenter on this 
>study, writes "to address these concerns, I created a list of 
>individuals who were experts on Milgram's studies and the ethical 
>questions surrounding this research. I offered to make this list 
>available to the IRB. More important, Steven Breckler, a social 
>psychologist who currently serves as the executive director for 
>science at the American Psychological Association, graciously 
>provided an assessment of the proposal's ethical issues that I 
>shared with the IRB."
>
>So while Steve B. (for Behnke) as Director of the APA Ethics office 
>didn't provide any ethical analysis of the project, it seems that 
>Steve B. (for Breckler) as executive director for science at APA did 
>provide a positive assessment of the proposal's ethical issues that 
>was given to the IRB for their deliberations. I think the 
>description given by Burger certainly qualifies as a vetting of the 
>experiment despite APA's protest.
>
>There may have been some confusion about a distinction between an 
>ethical analysis of the TV program and the study but, in the 
>messages below they seem to be clearly saying that the experiment 
>received no ethical review from APA and that clearly seems to be 
>untrue.
>
>This may all be old news to everyone but it was news to me and, 
>given the recent thread on using this tape in classes, I thought it 
>might be relevant for teachers to know the extent of APA's 
>involvement in the ethical review.

First, the article was in an APS journal, not APA.
Second, the actual quote is below -- judge whether this constitutes 'vetting':

....Steven Breckler, a social psychologist who currently serves as 
the executive director for science at the American Psychological 
Association, graciously provided an assessment of the proposal's 
ethical issues that I shared with the IRB.

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