At 3:41 AM -0600 2/10/08, Allen Esterson wrote:
>On 9 February 2008 Paul Brandon wrote:
>>[...]  My bug is the idea that Einstein in
>>some sense *refuted* Newton rather than extending his model.
>>While the conceptual (verbal) aspect is quite different, the
>>mathematics (as I understand it) are an extension rather than a 'from
>>the ground up' rebuilding.
>
>Paul: I don't know if you're making a general (and valid) point, or
>specifically referring to what I wrote, when you object to Einstein's being
>said to have "refuted" Newton. Anyway, to make my position clear, I didn't
>say that Einstein refuted Newton, I suggested that the *circularity of
>science argument* was refuted by Einstein's producing relativity theory.
>
>But - I wouldn't say Einstein "extended" Newton's model, since his theories
>of special and general relativity produced kinematic and gravitational
>equations based on a radically different foundation. Perhaps "improved
>upon" may be a preferable way of expressing it.
>
>>  While the conceptual (verbal) aspect is quite different, the
>>  mathematics (as I understand it) are an extension rather than a 'from
>>  the ground up' rebuilding.
>
>I'm not sure the mathematics enters the issue. It is a tool, rather than
>the theory itself. (Which is, I think, roughly what Tim Shearon argued on
>this point.)

I think that this comes down to a preference of philosophy of science.
I wonder which (most) physicists think is the real theory?
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