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> I am not sure how familiar you are with experimental design.There is a 
> design classified as an ABAB  where A stands  for baseline and B the 
> intoduction of the treatment.Behavior will be different under those 
> two conditions.The second A designates a return to baseline.It is 
> obvious that the shooter had returned to baseline due to the absence 
> of the treatment condition(his medication).


As so aptly pointed out by Paul Brandon, this is not a valid (or even 
close to valid) ABAB design. At best, according to Michael above, this 
is an ABA design -- off meds, on meds, off meds.  Of course, I don't 
recall reading that the individual under question in this case, 
committed a mass murder under the first condition or had been previously 
arrested for planning such a murder. Therefore, this would be at best an 
AB (on meds; off meds) design.

Michael also wrote:

> Not if you use the subject as his or her own control. The 
> interactional variables(ironically) are held constant.


Hmmmmm . . .  what would Shadish, Cook, and Campbell (2001) say about 
this?  Michael suggests that this individual lived in a vacuum whereby 
the only environmental factors impacting the individual are unique to 
the individual.  However, history can act as an experimental treatment 
and threatens the internal validity of any study that occurs over time 
without appropriate experimental controls. It could have been the freaky 
weather that the midwest was experiencing, the historical presidential 
campaigns, an odd alignment of planets, etc. or a host of factors not 
unique to the perpetrator that may have lead to the shooting. As Chris 
Green posits, "this situation is FAR more complicated than whether one 
takes drugs."

Moreover, as stressed by Steven Specht, the issue of variability is an 
issue. There are vast numbers of individuals who go off meds and don't 
shoot people, vast numbers of folks not on meds who don't shoot people, 
and vast numbers of folks on meds who don't shoot people.

Perhaps, a more important question is why are so many mass shootings are 
going on in the United States currently? Just in the past couple of 
weeks, there was a shooting a block or so from my house (one dead, one 
wounded). Hypothesized rationale is that it was a drug related shooting. 
In the suburb next to the university, a man shot and killed five 
individuals at a city council meeting. Hypothesized rationale was that 
he recently lost a court case in a long standing dispute with the city 
council. The Lane Bryant shootings--hypothesized rationale is a robbery 
gone bad. The NIU shooting--hypothesized rationale is the medication 
theory. These are complex situations and one single variable rarely is 
the sole cause of a set of behaviors. In each case, other choices in the 
situation could have been made that would not have included shooting the 
victims.

The common thread for each of these situations was the easy access each 
shooter apparently had to weapons. In the United States, we seem to do a 
poor job of monitoring who gets weapons, poorly prosecute those caught 
with illegal weapons, protect loopholes in gun laws to make weapons 
freely available without background checks at gun shows, etc., etc., etc.

Now before someone else states the obvious, let me add that I recognize 
that "guns don't kill people; people kill people." To which I add, "guns 
just make it easier."

To Peace,

Linda


Shadish, W. R., Cook, T. D., & Campbell, D. T. (2001). Experimental and 
quasi-experimental designs for generalized causal inference. Boston, MA: 
Houghton Mifflin.




-- 
Linda M. Woolf, Ph.D.
Professor of Psychology and International Human Rights
Past-President, Society for the Study of Peace, Conflict, & Violence 
(Div. 48, APA) <http://www.peacepsych.org>
Steering Committee, Psychologists for Social Responsibility (PsySR) 
<http://www.psysr.org>
Secretary, Raphael Lemkin Award Committee, Institute for the Study of 
Genocide <http://www.isg-iags.org/>
Coordinator - Holocaust & Genocide Studies
Center for the Study of the Holocaust, Genocide, and Human Rights
Webster University
470 East Lockwood
St. Louis, MO  63119

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