I think Dave Myers is probably too much of a gentleman to attempt to defend 
himself, so I'm taking up the gauntlet.

Dave works like a dog on his many textbooks.  If he does well financially, it's 
because he does such a great job and they're very popular.  Why can't we think 
that it's a wonderful thing if he made a generous contribution?  

I couldn't get the link that Don sent to open up with any info about Dave's 
purported gift, but I have heard the same comment regarding the wonderful 
generosity of Melinda and Bill Gates.  ("Gee, they make so much money that a 
gift like that won't hurt them.")  Well, that certainly negates the positive 
aspect of the gift-giving.   Hugh Hefner and The Donald make quite a bit of 
money, but I haven't read lately about them going to Africa to find a cure for 
malaria, etc.

Beth Benoit
Granite State College
Plymouth State University
New Hampshire


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Don Allen 
  To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) 
  Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [tips] Obama thinks textbook writers are scammers


  Chris-

  Didn't David Meyers give APS a gift of 1 million dollars? 

  see: http://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/getArticle.cfm?
  id=1546  

   Did he win it in the lottery or was some of that money from textbook 
  sales?

  -Don.

  Don Allen
  Dept. of Psychology
  Langara College
  100 W. 49th Ave.
  Vancouver, B.C.
  Canada V5Y 2Z6
  Phone: 604-323-5871


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Christopher D. Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Date: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:13 am
  Subject: [tips] Obama thinks textbook writers are scammers
  To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" 
  <[email protected]>

  > Check out the following item from today's Inside Higher Ed:
  > 
  > If Barack Obama is elected president, students upset about 
  > textbook 
  > prices may have an ally. While he hasn't proposed any legislation 
  > on the 
  > topic, he used an appearance Friday at the University of Texas-Pan 
  > American to criticize the way professors benefit from writing 
  > expensive 
  > texts. The /Chicago Tribune/ 
  > 
  <http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/obama_on_a_col
  lege_textbook_ra.html> 
  > quoted him as saying: "Books are a big scam. I taught law at the 
  > University of Chicago for 10 years, and one of the biggest scams 
  > is law 
  > professors write their own textbooks and then assign it to their 
  > students. They make a mint. It's a huge racket. /The Wall Street 
  > Journal/ 
  > <http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/02/22/obama-to-students-be-
  > careful-with-those-credit-cards/?mod=googlenews_wsj> 
  > reported that in a discussion in which Obama reiterated his 
  > criticism of 
  > private student loans, he also urged students to be careful about 
  > their 
  > own spending. "Just be careful about those credit cards, all 
  > right? 
  > Don't eat out as much," the /Journal/ quoted him saying.
  > 
  > I can't speak for law schools, but I don't know that anyone makes 
  > "a 
  > mint" on textbooks. If it doesn't sell well beyond one's own 
  > classes, it 
  > isn't going to be around for very long, I would guess. And doesn't 
  > it 
  > seem reasonable that if you spend a great deal of time an effort 
  > laying 
  > out a particular topic in the way you think it should be taught, 
  > that 
  > you would want to also use that book in order to teach it that way?
  > 
  > Regards,
  > Chris
  > -- 
  > 
  > Christopher D. Green
  > Department of Psychology
  > York University
  > Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
  > Canada
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 416-736-2100 ex. 66164
  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > http://www.yorku.ca/christo/
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > "Part of respecting another person is taking the time to criticise 
  > his 
  > or her views." 
  > 
  >   - Melissa Lane, in a /Guardian/ obituary for philosopher Peter 
  > Lipton
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