Hi Beth-

Let me clarify my post. I have nothing but admiration for David 
Meyers. I think that his gift to APS was a noble example and I wish I 
could follow suit. My only point was to take issue with the notion 
that textbook writing isn't lucrative. While I think that it's true 
that most authors make relatively little money from their work there 
are a few who (deservedly) seem to do quite well.

-Don.

Don Allen
Dept. of Psychology
Langara College
100 W. 49th Ave.
Vancouver, B.C.
Canada V5Y 2Z6
Phone: 604-323-5871


----- Original Message -----
From: Beth Benoit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:20 am
Subject: Re: [tips] Obama thinks textbook writers are scammers
To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" 
<[email protected]>

> I think Dave Myers is probably too much of a gentleman to attempt 
> to defend himself, so I'm taking up the gauntlet.
> 
> Dave works like a dog on his many textbooks.  If he does well 
> financially, it's because he does such a great job and they're 
> very popular.  Why can't we think that it's a wonderful thing if 
> he made a generous contribution?  
> 
> I couldn't get the link that Don sent to open up with any info 
> about Dave's purported gift, but I have heard the same comment 
> regarding the wonderful generosity of Melinda and Bill Gates.  
> ("Gee, they make so much money that a gift like that won't hurt 
> them.")  Well, that certainly negates the positive aspect of the 
> gift-giving.   Hugh Hefner and The Donald make quite a bit of 
> money, but I haven't read lately about them going to Africa to 
> find a cure for malaria, etc.
> 
> Beth Benoit
> Granite State College
> Plymouth State University
> New Hampshire
> 
> 
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Don Allen 
>  To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) 
>  Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:06 PM
>  Subject: Re: [tips] Obama thinks textbook writers are scammers
> 
> 
>  Chris-
> 
>  Didn't David Meyers give APS a gift of 1 million dollars? 
> 
>  see: http://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/getArticle.cfm?
>  id=1546  
> 
>   Did he win it in the lottery or was some of that money from 
> textbook 
>  sales?
> 
>  -Don.
> 
>  Don Allen
>  Dept. of Psychology
>  Langara College
>  100 W. 49th Ave.
>  Vancouver, B.C.
>  Canada V5Y 2Z6
>  Phone: 604-323-5871
> 
> 
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Christopher D. Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Date: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:13 am
>  Subject: [tips] Obama thinks textbook writers are scammers
>  To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" 
>  <[email protected]>
> 
>  > Check out the following item from today's Inside Higher Ed:
>  > 
>  > If Barack Obama is elected president, students upset about 
>  > textbook 
>  > prices may have an ally. While he hasn't proposed any 
> legislation 
>  > on the 
>  > topic, he used an appearance Friday at the University of Texas-
> Pan 
>  > American to criticize the way professors benefit from writing 
>  > expensive 
>  > texts. The /Chicago Tribune/ 
>  > 
>  
> 
<http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/obama_on_a_col
  lege_textbook_ra.html> 
>  > quoted him as saying: "Books are a big scam. I taught law at 
> the 
>  > University of Chicago for 10 years, and one of the biggest 
> scams 
>  > is law 
>  > professors write their own textbooks and then assign it to 
> their 
>  > students. They make a mint. It's a huge racket. /The Wall 
> Street 
>  > Journal/ 
>  > <http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/02/22/obama-to-students-be-
>  > careful-with-those-credit-cards/?mod=googlenews_wsj> 
>  > reported that in a discussion in which Obama reiterated his 
>  > criticism of 
>  > private student loans, he also urged students to be careful 
> about 
>  > their 
>  > own spending. "Just be careful about those credit cards, all 
>  > right? 
>  > Don't eat out as much," the /Journal/ quoted him saying.
>  > 
>  > I can't speak for law schools, but I don't know that anyone 
> makes 
>  > "a 
>  > mint" on textbooks. If it doesn't sell well beyond one's own 
>  > classes, it 
>  > isn't going to be around for very long, I would guess. And 
> doesn't 
>  > it 
>  > seem reasonable that if you spend a great deal of time an 
> effort 
>  > laying 
>  > out a particular topic in the way you think it should be 
> taught, 
>  > that 
>  > you would want to also use that book in order to teach it that 
> way?  > 
>  > Regards,
>  > Chris
>  > -- 
>  > 
>  > Christopher D. Green
>  > Department of Psychology
>  > York University
>  > Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
>  > Canada
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 416-736-2100 ex. 66164
>  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > http://www.yorku.ca/christo/
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > "Part of respecting another person is taking the time to 
> criticise 
>  > his 
>  > or her views." 
>  > 
>  >   - Melissa Lane, in a /Guardian/ obituary for philosopher 
> Peter 
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