Hi,

Very good question!

I agree with the previous comments about challenging the Y students more. You 
are not then lowering any standards, rather raising them where it seems 
appropriate to do so. If you give a very challenging midterm one-third of the 
way through the course the students will realize they have to work hard to do 
well. 

Could you ask for clarification from you chair about expectations for a mean 
score or final percentage? If you get a low mean you can always curve the 
grades till you get a feel for the true mean. Do you have any colleagues there 
who would share their exams with you?

I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with adjusting your 
expectations for a group of students who should be performing at a higher 
level. They are probably more test-wise, articulate and sophisticated about 
"getting by". Challenge them so that the truly A+ students stand out. 

It would be interesting to know where the mean is in intro psych courses 
everywhere. Mine are typically around 68% but I've also had much lower and a 
bit higher.

best wishes,
Sally Walters PhD
CapilanoU



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  Hi all,

  Hope you are having good summer down time. I need some guidance. The names 
have been changed to protect the somewhat innocent.

  School X is my full time job, school Y is a steady part time gig.

  School X is in a working class/poor neighborhood, school Y is in an affluent 
area of LA. Students at school X are more likely to be working and students at 
school Y are more likely to be fully supported by their families.

  Cheating is more likely to occur at school Y although it is not unknown at 
school X. I tend to monitor school Y students more closely because of this.

  In my psychology 1 classes, I teach and grade the same way. I offer open-book 
pop quizzes, exams with a limited number of notes allowed, one take home exam 
and a required term paper.

  My grade curve at school X is more evenly distributed than at school Y where 
it is much higher. I am getting in trouble because of the high average in my 
school Y classes and might lose this job (since school X doesn't always provide 
summer work - 10 month contract - I kind of don't want that to happen). I've 
taught at Y since 2000. I feel attached to it.

  I have considered the possibility that I am being a "lenient part timer" at 
school Y, but I really don't think so. If anything, when I sit down to grade 
the work of those students I am more likely to be in a negative frame of mind 
(the students at school Y are VERY immature and behave badly in class).  The 
fact is they generally do better on the MC/objective sections of my tests than 
school X students.

  I am discussing this with my department head. I have considered going to 
closed book exams at school Y. She suggests using a curve. 

  It seems unfair to me to do things differently at school Y just because they 
do better. They may be poorly behaved, but they are generally pretty bright. 

  I am just looking for thoughtful opinions and guidance. I really believe I am 
being honest with myself and portraying this fairly. Thanks for your help.

  Nancy Melucci
  Long Beach CA
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