My retort to the extra credit thing is something like this: So, you're not doing very well on the material that you're supposed to learn for this class, so you want me to give you credit for something that's not part of what you're supposed to learn to make up for the things you're not learning?
Sometimes you see a little "oh... Right" look on a face. Most times, not. :( m ------- Marc L Carter Associate Professor and Chair Department of Psychology Baker University College of Arts & Sciences ------- > -----Original Message----- > From: Helweg-Larsen, Marie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 12:03 PM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > Subject: [tips] academic entitlement > > I think students ask for extra credit, make up exams, etc. > primarily for two reasons: 1) They are used to getting such > things in high school. I am constantly shocked at the amount > of extra credit my daughter receives in high school (she is a > junior) for bringing in food for a class party, for example, > or doing completely non-academic things (like making a > stuffed mole for National Mole day for her Honors Chemistry > class). 2) Students think it is a low (or zero) cost > proposition to ask. They figure that at worst they'll get a > no, so why not ask (they might even get a yes). They have no > idea that some professors find such requests anything from > irritating to appalling. I tell my students about the > importance of impression management. > > Marie > > **************************************************** > Marie Helweg-Larsen, Ph.D. > Department Chair and Associate Professor of Psychology > Kaufman 168, Dickinson College Carlisle, PA 17013, (717) > 245-1562, (717) 245-1971 Office Hours: Tues and Thur > 9:30-10:30, Wed 10:30-11:45 > http://www.dickinson.edu/departments/psych/helwegm > **************************************************** > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Amadio, Dean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:55 AM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > Subject: RE:[tips] tips digest: November 10, 2008 > > I'm sure I'm in the same boat with most on this one. I'm > shocked at the things some students ask for - either directly > or indirectly - not only about grades but the expectations > for extra credit and make-up exams are really out of hand. > > What's implied in this article is that students are consumers > and thus, deserve a good grade since they've paid for the > product. I believe in the consumer movement in education very > strongly; students should expect a good education. However, > let's not confuse this with expecting good grades. I've met > many faculty members who denounce the consumer movement > precisely because they believe it's about purchasing good grades. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > <<News article about a recent study of "academic entitlement" > among college students. > http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id > =376cc625-e38f-491b-b6f6-40926f124d02>> > > > > --- > To make changes to your subscription contact: > > Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > --- > To make changes to your subscription contact: > > Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
