Hi All - I'm starting to work on a manuscript (along with some colleagues) that 
helps to address most of Marc's excellent questions below, and will be happy to 
send to relevant TIPSters when it's ready for prime time.

     One problem that is not often appreciated, I think (perhaps because it is 
perceived as politically incorrect to raise), is a self-selection for certain 
personality traits, attitudes, and aptitudes.   We know from the work of Peter 
Zachar and others that by the time students get to graduate school, 
practitioner interests tend to be negatively correlated with interests in 
science (interestingly, this correlation is positive among undergraduates).  
Moreover, we know that high scores on Holland's "social" type (interested in 
helping others) tend to do poorly in math and science (Phil Ackerman's work), 
probably resulting in a propensity toward at least some math and science 
phobia.   Luckily, the negative correlations here are nowhere near r= -1.00, so 
we can find plenty of practice-oriented folks who like science and are good at 
it.  But we should not be surprised that an aggregate level, if we select for 
students who say only that "I want to help people," we will often end up with 
students who are not especially enthusiastic about science.   And to be frank, 
I have little or no idea how to select for "scientific attitudes" in 
prospective graduate students.  This would be a most worthwhile research 
project, in my view.  I'm not sure I've done much better than flipping pennies 
over the years.

    Can we persuade individuals who enter graduate school with an indifference 
or even antipathy toward science to care about science - or at least care about 
finding ways of minimizing their propensity toward errors - with proper 
training?  I don't know, although that's the focus of our manuscript.  I 
believe (?) I've had a few scattered successes over the years in my graduate 
teaching and mentoring, but there's no question that it's hard work.

      I have long given up on APA in this regard; it's one reason I resigned a 
number of years ago and have never looked back.  They are simply too deeply 
invested in keeping their members happy, and their leadership has consistently 
shown a marked absence of the courage needed to make the needed reforms.  Not 
surprisingly, their public reaction to the recent McFall et al. PSPI manuscript 
was one of smug defensiveness rather than an open admission that "Yes, they're 
right...we can do a lot better."  But don't get me started on this one.


Scott O. Lilienfeld, Ph.D.
Professor
Editor, Scientific Review of Mental Health Practice
Department of Psychology, Room 473 Psychology and Interdisciplinary Sciences 
(PAIS)
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Psychology Today Blog: 
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-skeptical-psychologist

50 Great Myths of Popular Psychology:
http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-140513111X.html

Scientific American Mind: Facts and Fictions in Mental Health Column:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/sciammind/

The Master in the Art of Living makes little distinction between his work and 
his play,
his labor and his leisure, his mind and his body, his education and his 
recreation,
his love and his intellectual passions.  He hardly knows which is which.
He simply pursues his vision of excellence in whatever he does,
leaving others to decide whether he is working or playing.
To him - he is always doing both.

- Zen Buddhist text
  (slightly modified)



From: Marc Carter [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:09 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: RE: [tips] *Nature* on APA and clinical psychology


Hi, All --

I don't disagree with Don at all, but I want to turn Michael's question on its 
head: why are we (or is APA) not serious about training practitioners so that 
they can read and evaluate research?  Why is this sort of training not a part 
of the continuing education that clinicians and counselors are required to get?

How can we in conscience send practioners out into the world who are incurious, 
unsophisticated and gullible?  Isn't it our (or at least APA's) responsibility 
to certify programs that turn out people who know how to read research and 
evaluate it?   I give you as an example _The Courage to Heal_ and the great 
damage that caused simply because of gullibility and a pervasive sense that an 
effective therapy can be judged because, "well, this sounds right."

I certainly don't want my doctor choosing a medicine on the basis of anything 
other than what's been shown to work.  Why should we expect less of therapists?

It frightens me.

m

--
Marc Carter, PhD
Associate Professor and Chair
Department of Psychology
College of Arts & Sciences
Baker University
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