> John W. Nichols wrote:
> > But probabily not as long as it will take them to learn the virtues of
> > honesty and integrity.
> >
> > "Paul C. Smith" wrote:
> > > Of course, it'll take a LOT longer to root out all
> > >the pro-child abuse FRC members.
>
> If it weren't for the fact that the Christian Coalition seems to use
> "lying" as its first tool of choice in general, I'd be encouraged by the
> fact that they have to resort to this kind of lie to create evil to rail
> against. The idea is that things must be going pretty well if they can't
> find any REAL evil actions to fight.
> ---
>
> Paul Smith
> Alverno College
> Milwaukee
Apparently I should have clarified when I sent the article -- I was passing
along the information to others and looking for others to discuss its content.
So, I'm not sure why Paul and John are copying their messages to me...
I was absolutely unfamiliar with this article, or that it had embroiled such a
controversy, so I thought perhaps others might be interested in knowing
what's going on. As Stephen Black stated, this may indeed be a sad day for
science.
I know nothing of FRC and very little of the Christian Coalition, so please
don't take my posting the article as an endorsement of either of these groups.
That was the original avenue I became aware of the study, and since then,
some other individuals have been kind enough to forward other documents
such as Ray Fowler's/APA's official statement on this issue.
Regarding these groups, I think "lying" is an unfortunate choice of words -- I
have not seen anything in any source (YET) that demonstrates those
opposed to the article have intentionally been untruthful. On the other hand, I
have also seen that some religious conservatives, such as James Dobson
and Laura Schlessinger, haven't done their homework and have been guilty of
exaggerations and "right-wing" propaganda.
I do not see anything that shows the Christian Coalition's hand in this, and I
know very little about them, but I think it's interesting how quickly some folks
went from discussing the article and people's reactions (accurate and
hysterical) to taking another opportunity to slam "right-wingers" and
"fundamentalists."
I also think throwing in child abuse is completely irrelevant here. Can't we
stick to the issue at hand? I'm very interested in others' reactions to the
article (assuming you have read it).
For those of you who haven't read the article, if you are an APA member, or
APA-affiliate, the article is online and can be seen at:
http://members.apa.org/governance/bulletin/
Thanks,
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Jim Guinee, Ph.D. Director of Training, Counseling Center
Adjunct Professor, Dept. of Psychology/Counseling
Dept. of Health Sciences
President-Elect, Arkansas College Counselor Association
University of Central Arkansas
313 Bernard Hall Conway, AR 72035
(501) 450-3138 (office) (501) 450-3248 (fax)
"Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be still wiser;
teach a righteous man and he will increase in learning."
Proverbs 9:9
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