Dear List members, I recently requested information regarding dual-track undergraduate programs (e.g., one track for students planning on graduate school and one track for students planning on going directly into the work force), and received several very helpful responses. Thanks for your help. Since a number of people indicated an interest, the responses are listed below. I would also be very interested in hearing what the members of this list think about such programs. Do you think they are generally a good idea or not? Thanks again. Jay ------------------------------- Jay, We do not track in the manner you suggest here, but we do offer two degrees -- a BA and BS, with the latter heavier in science for people who want to go to medical school. And obviously students interested in going on in many areas of Psychology would select the latter, but not necessarily those interested in counseling or clinical psychology. Barbara Sommer ---------------------------------- Jay, we don't have a dual track system per se, but we do have 4 concentrations that students can select depending on their interests and future plans. The ones we have are: clinical counseling; industrial/ organization, experimental, and school/developmental. We also have a psycho-biology program and most of the students in this major expect to go on to graduate school. Salvatore Cullari, Ph.D. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Professor & Chair, Psychology Department Voice: 717-867-6197 Lebanon Valley College Fax: 717-867-6075 Annville, Pa. 17003 Moderator, Psy-PA Department's Homepage: http://www.lvc.edu/www/psychology/index.html Personal Web site: http://www.nvo.com/scullari/door ------------------------------------- Check this URL http://www.utoledo.edu/psychology/undergrad.html for a description of the University of Toledo's Pre-porfessional and Liberal Arts tracks in the Psychology Major. Michael J. Caruso Associate Professor Department of Psychology University of Toledo E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.sp.utoledo.edu/~mcaruso/ ------------------------------------------ Hi Jay, I thought that was the distinction between a BS and a BA, for schools that offer both degrees. Dawn Morales, grad in psych at UC at San Diego, University of New Orleans BS ----------------------------------------- Dear Prof. Jackson, At Ithaca College, we have two such tracks. One is called "Psychology"; it is a more traditional liberal arts approach. The second is called "Applied Psychology", which is a B.S. degree that requires courses in accounting, business, communications, etc. with a slight reduction in psychology credits. (I happen not to like the second one very much, but that is neither here nor there.) If you go to the Ithaca College Psychology Dept. web page, you can view the requirements: <http://www.ithaca.edu/psychology>. Incidentally, if you see Drew Appleby, send him my regards. Good luck with your work. Barney ------------------------------------------ My initial reaction is to say that this waaay too competitive. Without appropriate gear, someone could be seriously injured! : ) Actually, I think it is a bad idea. At what point do you decide who belongs in the two tracks? What happens to the "late-bloomer" who might have been successful if only given the opportunities of the graduate-school track? Another problem, and if you want to kill this idea mention it, is that in public schools tracking can lead to de facto segregation and legal problems. ---------------------------------------- Jay, We've just started down this road and it is a duel Vs a dual-track program! There is one really new course: Psychology in Context Surveys the many areas of professional expertise in PSYC using, in part, APA's web listing of Division, but also many other web sites and home pages. Literature searching using all the web based search engines we have. Literature summarization. Both groups will take "Context" Then, they can take a watered down Research Methods course rather than a rigorous Experimental Design course with lab They substitute Applied Behavior Analysis for Lrng & Cog with lab. A course in Applied PSYC is in the works. Otherwise both groups take the same courses. The changes are all in the core. Al Al L. Cone Jamestown College <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> North Dakota 701.252.3467 X 2604 http://www.jc.edu/users/faculty/cone ------------------------------------------ At Frostburg we have "three tracks": the major, an internship program (for those students wanting to go to work with a BA) and a preprofessional program (for those students wanting to go to graduate school). We generally have about 70 majors graduating (rough estimate) and about 15-20 of those will have completed the internship program and about 2 will have completed the preprofessional program. Let me know if you want more details. -- Chrismarie Baxter, PhD 301-687-4491 (office) Psychology Department 301-687-7418 (FAX) Frostburg State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] (e-mail) Frostburg, MD 21532 "Less is more." ------------------------------------- A conflict mediation track might be more popular. ----------------------------- ================================= Jay W. Jackson Department of Psychological Sciences Indiana - Purdue University 2101 East Coliseum Boulevard Fort Wayne, Indiana 46805 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 219-481-6401 Fax: 219-481-6183 http://www.ipfw.edu/nf1/jacksonj/ ================================= -- ================================= Jay W. Jackson Department of Psychological Sciences Indiana - Purdue University 2101 East Coliseum Boulevard Fort Wayne, Indiana 46805 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 219-481-6401 Fax: 219-481-6183 http://www.ipfw.edu/nf1/jacksonj/ =================================
